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The Remarkable Mr Ludlum

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Dear Shadow Minister,

What it proves is that having an Australian passport
is a recognition of their Australian citizenship.
Therefore it would be a natural assumption on their
part that that's where the matter ended. Why
would you bother checking on your relationship with
a nation you left at a very young age and never knew
when you are an Australian citizen and have been
recognised as such by being given an
Australian passport.

Makes no sense.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 1:22:39 PM
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Foxy,

And why would that be a natural assumption? I would prefer MPs to have unabiguous loyalties to Aus, especially in positions of power and privy to confidential information.

The requirement to give up dual citizenship is a tiny sacrifice that is a simple task which only complete morons would fail to navigate for a significant salary with incredible perks.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 22 July 2017 4:32:08 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Why don't we make it a part of The Australian Citizenship
Oath or Affirmation to renounce any prior citizenship?

It could read as follows:

"From this time forward (under God) I pledge my loyalty to
Australia and its people, and I renounce my German/ British/
whatever citizenship. I pledge my loyalty to Australia and
its peoples, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights
and liberties I respect and whose laws I will uphold and obey."

Then the need for any future renunciations of mistakes made -
could be avoided.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 4:48:54 PM
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"I(SM) would prefer MPs to have unabiguous loyalties to Aus, especially in positions of power and privy to confidential information.

What a load of sanctimonious weasel words. What about Eric Abetz a Liberal government minister, Shadow do you suspect Abetz, a Kraut by birth, was passing on state secrets to the Nazi's or some such thing.

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/eric-abetz-the-greens-and-s44-why-the-double-standard,10519
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 22 July 2017 6:04:15 PM
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Foxy,

That would not actually renounce your second citizenship.

Again, changing things for everyone because a couple of MPs are idiots is overkill.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 22 July 2017 6:05:37 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I don't think its over kill at all.

Isn't it overkill when you take out Australian Citizenship
swear an oath of loyalty but then have to double up and
renounce an old citizenship that you may not even be aware
that you still had. Why can't it all be taken care of in
one move. Why the double necessity - from a bygone era.
Can't we change this. And get with the times.
We're no longer a British colony.
Ah, wait a minute...
We may be independent in some respects - but not in others
it seems.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 6:40:33 PM
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