Paul1405,

You deny youthful Jordon Steele-John's apparent successful compliance with the requirements of his application for nomination, which I might have pointed out for you is wider than citizenship, which he has right anyway.

Not something that other Greens, the 'Look at Moi!' Showboats Ludlam and Larissa Waters were ever capable of. Or was it below them?

Now, what should the now foundered Showboats and the Greens Party be doing to recompense the highly taxed Aussie workers, especially young singles, for the millions of dollars sucked by those casual, errant, self-serving Greens from the trough of taxpayer money?

Why is there one law for Greens politicians and a different law for the public?

leoj,

There are not different laws for different people.
The same laws apply or should apply the same to
everyone. But of course as we all know - depending
on your power and influence it's the application of
these laws that makes a world of difference.

Also what needs to be looked at is the relevance
of the laws that existed so many centuries ago for
one purpose relevant then, and the relevance that
they are today - to Modern Australia. Surely
becoming an Australian citizen and swearing loyalty
in a Citizenship pledge to Australia first and
foremost should be enough?

Peter Costello pointed out in his Memoirs that -
"The Australian Citizenship Oath of Affirmation tries
to capture the essence of what it means to be Australian.
It reads as follows: 'From this time forward (under God)
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose
democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties
I respect and whose laws I will uphold and obey."

There is a lot of sense in this pledge.
Surely you have to agree.

What should be concerning you, but strangely it isn't, Foxy, is the offenders' obvious ease in concealment and protecting themselves from scrutiny for so long. Deliberate or not is irrelevant, although the conditions were spelled out in documents and briefings they should have attended to.

And where were the minders who were supposed to be watching? Some were formally charged with that responsibility and others have the responsibility through their duty of care, for example the Greens Party. -Issues among others covered in previous postsd.

The discussion should be moving to that higher plane, exploration of what prevented the available controls from being in place and working. And one must also be considering then what pressure real or implied, direct or indirect, collegiate or self-interest even, that may influencing the minders and others if they may have been so casual about their due diligence responsibilities.

Honestly now, what is there about being in a powerful position that acts to shield against detection of wrongdoing or bending the rules for self-advantage and even where found out, diminishes or wipes out the consequences that ordinary members of the public would, not might, face?

Australia is not a Third World country. What is going on? Why is there one law for Greens politicians and a different law for the public?

leoj,

We might also well ask why is there one law for Senators
Scott Ludlum and Waters and another for Senator Eric Abetz?
He did not renounce anything until 2010, and he was in
Parliament since 1994. He sat there for sixteen years before
his "Renunciation." When did he become an Australian citizen?
Did he renounce his citizenship prior to entering Parliament
in 1994? And why doesn't he provide the documentation?

If we're going after people - everyone should be included in
this pursuit - and not just a select few - right?

cont'd ...

BTW leoj,

What colour is your garden -
Green or brown?

We all would like to know?

Foxy,

The same law applies for the greens as anyone else.

LW and SL were faced with positive proof that they were not eligible to be senators. EA has positive proof that he is eligible for this term and at least the previous 2. However, if you or anyone else have proof that he had dual citizenship prior to that the onus is on you to provide it. However, even if you do, it will have no effect on his present status.

I wait in breathless anticipation to see whether dinner tally and Sam Dastardly have dual citizenship.