Kaktuz,

“At best, Muslims argue that others have done the same things, as much as or worse. Often this is true.”
That’s mythology, only criminals can think like that and it contradicts Islamic teachings. Once someone is set out to harm innocent civilians it means he stopped being a Muslim. www.fethullahgulen.org

Dear Boaz,

Dr Anis Sorrosh challenged Islamic theology over 2 hours with the very same argument in your comments above. You can watch it and make out what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcMzHgq2zRo

“and I can only offer this for your (and everyones) prayerful contemplation. No offense intended”
Thanks I appreciate the invitation, no offence taken (I would have been offended by now if I was the type ;))

Peace as always,

All the ranting about Islamic and Christian theology will not take anyone anywhere. The way I see it is Islamic immigrants to western democracies end up as a backward underclass if they maintain their faith. If they want to maintain the faith they should stay in the Islamic nations.
No nation needs an embittered underclass that creates its little no-go areas in our midst.

Sille,

"The way I see it is Islamic immigrants to western democracies end up as a backward underclass if they maintain their faith"

Replace western democracies with "Australia".
The first thing I noticed when I migrated to Australia a decade ago was the quality of migrants from muslim countries in Australia was not as good in comparison with muslim migrantion to the US, Canada and Europe. It was no surprise that on educational and socio-economical levels, migrants coming to Australia from certain countries were far less qualified or educated than their countrymen favouring the US or Europe.

The answer can only be immigration policies which largely relies on government regulations and the standards required to let in migrants into Australia. Seems the US, Canada and Europe have better mechanisms to attract and retain intellects and the more qualified.
I think the government policies are changing but it will take a while to see substantial improvement.

Peace,