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Failure of the Gun Laws

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Hi Issy,

Been in Melbourne for a few days, catch up with family and friends. it was a busy time, dinner Saturday night, QV markets on Sunday. Sunday night at a 'Multicultural' social gathering, people from as faraway as the Pacific, also we met a very nice lady from Sudan, with a very interesting life story, been in Australia 17 years. Home last night.

Thanks for asking.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:32:27 AM
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EmperorJulian,

That is ridiculous. Please try to engage with the facts.
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:51:54 AM
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Yank NRA Australian Chapter wrote: "That is ridiculous. Please try to engage with the facts."
What facts? Gunshot deaths in Japan and America are facts.
What precisely, in English, was "ridiculous" and in what way? Try a reasoned answer as throwaway descriptors alone are mere ducking and weaving.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 4:01:54 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Did you happen to watch "Sixty Minutes," on Sunday night?
There was a feature on the black areas of Chicago and
the problems involved with guns, violence, murders, and
crime. People were asked the question, "Do guns contribute
to the amount of killings in this neighbourhood?"
The answer was a unanimous - "Yes, definitely!"
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 5:22:18 PM
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Foxy,

Of course guns contribute to the killings in Chicago but a greater contribution is by the people who pull the triggers.
If people are shot then the guns must be a contributing factor, just as cars are a contributing factor in road deaths.
Doesn't take rocket science to work that out.

Chicago has tough gun laws by the way,

"....the New York Times described Chicago's gun laws as some of the "toughest restrictions," saying:

Not a single gun shop can be found in this city because they are outlawed. Handguns were banned in Chicago for decades, too, until 2010, when the United States Supreme Court ruled that was going too far, leading city leaders to settle for restrictions some describe as the closest they could get legally to a ban without a ban. Despite a continuing legal fight, Illinois remains the only state in the nation with no provision to let private citizens carry guns in public."

Meanwhile, as the murder rate drops in the rest of the US it goes up in Chicago, and the guns used in Chicago are 99.999% illegal.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 9:27:43 PM
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What a joke. all that proves is that dumbed down audiences like sensationalist pap.

There is a number of obvious research flaws in that, all fatal. It is worth zero, but worse, it is deliberately misleading.

TV makes the news!
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 9:32:50 PM
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