Dear Paul,

Hassie would know all about - the older he
gets the more dangerous it is to sneeze.

Paul & Foxy,

I don't understand why you obliquely support extreme-right-wing murderers and torturers, and get all prissy about what to do with them, launching quite vicious attacks on anybody who comes up with suggestions.

They are going to be a problem: if their only citizenship is Australian, then they can't be deprived of it and become stateless. They remain Australian. So our government has to work out what to do with them.

You seem to suggest that nothing should be done at all (after all, you make no suggestions, only whinge and bitch at anybody who does), perhaps you would welcome them back and give them sympathetic counselling, perhaps put them on disability pensions. I don't see it quite that way: they have killed innocent people, murdered them, perhaps tortured and raped them as well.

We don't have the death penalty anymore, so that's out. If it were still in place, we could ask Syrian and Iraqi refugees if they wished to pull the levers. That might be quite therapeutic for them.

But without that, we have to find ways to incarcerate them for life, in a way which denies them any contact with anybody else, certainly their families and each other. I've suggested new isolation prisons around Oodnadatta and Betoota: what do you think of that idea ?

Try to be constructive now :)

Joe

'I don't understand why you obliquely support extreme-right-wing murderers and torturers, and get all prissy about what to do with them, launching quite vicious attacks on anybody who comes up with suggestions.'

to busy banging on about fake news (gw) than real threats. This sort of ignorance does not go well for our grandkids. Myriads have been dumbed down over the last few decades.

Hi Runner,

You might be onto something. Lately it's struck me that many people seem to have a very shaky idea about what reality is. Not necessarily just young people, but people of all ages who seem to think that reality is like some sort of shop from which you can choose the reality which suits you best, and ignore anything else, especially if it seems a bit negative and runs against what you already believe. I suppose there's a word for that.

Yes, of course there is: prejudice. Strictly, it mean judging before any evidence, and by implication, denying any evidence which goes against what someone already believes, not changing your mind no matter what evidence is thrown up.

But there seems more to it: a real assumption that all reality is illusory, there are many equally illusory realities, so one can just choose whichever version, brand, make, or prejudice that one likes best. The problem with all that is that there IS a reality, 'out there', and it will, sooner or later, bite them on the arse.

So what do we do with Australians who have committed fascist acts of brutality and terror ?

Joe

Dear Joe,

I do not support any form of violence or any criminals
as you well know from my posting record over the years
on this forum. What I do respond to however is personal
attacks on people with at times some humour to deflate
the situation. But then you should also know that.

Joe,

I'd put them away without the hope of parole and in prisons well out in the desert.
Guarded by Army Infantry units on a four month rotation.
Fly in fly out and only electric vehicles for local transportation.

Any mucking up and the food stops.