Dear Runner,

«Most mothers I know even of criminals love their sons dearly. So you think these men you speak of would be better off being snuffed out in their mother's womb?»

If it were up to me, then indeed I would prefer to be snuffed out in my mother's womb over being born in a criminal environment.

As a Christian you may believe otherwise, but as a Hindu I believe that life is a curse rather than a blessing.

This doesn't make it wise to terminate your life: so long as the sting, the root of your curse (which is your own desires) is intact, you would be born again and again without salvation - no easy way to cheat your way out.

But if without any wilful effort one is killed in the womb, then it means that their life-sentence was light, that they were only required to serve a short while on earth and have now been absolved - Hallelujah!

Great news for the baby - so why should we not abort all the time? Because typically the mother/parents abort for their own selfish motives rather than out of genuine love and compassion for their unborn baby. While the baby may benefit from being aborted, the mother/parents gets deeper into sin.

It's all about the true motive, this is what counts rather than the external physical action - and God sees to the heart. The rule should be Hillel's Golden Rule: what you hate being done unto yourself - do not do unto others. Thus so long as you believe that life is a great thing, you should not kill others, including your babies.

But think again: is life growing up within a criminal family and being educated into a sinful lifestyle, indeed a great thing?

Yuyutsu

'If it were up to me, then indeed I would prefer to be snuffed out in my mother's womb over being born in a criminal environment.'

I take it as a Hindu Yuyutsu that you would also allow an untouchable to starve rather than kill a cow or is your brand of Hinduism a little more humane to humans. I take it you believe the child will be re incarnated which actually shows why India is the hell hole it is in many areas.

Also seen all people are born to parents who have somewhat of a corrupt nature like you and me I wonder where you draw the line in murdering the child for 'its own good'.

Yuyutsu touches on a point I’ve made a couple of times now, for those anti-abortionists whose position is grounded Christian theology.

According to Christianity, repeatedly falling pregnant and having abortions would ultimately be a good thing to do. After all, you’re creating more souls and sending them straight to heaven with no chance of them using the brain they were blessed with and going to hell for it.

Like a parent who is initially disappointed with their teenage daughter’s untimely pregnancy, but falls in love with their new grandchild when they’re born anyway, how could our Lord and Saviour, Jesus the Christ, not be happy in the end with more souls to love?

As disturbing as it is, Andrea Yates’ killing of her five children, to prevent them ever running the risk of going to hell, was a theologically sound thing to do.

http://youtu.be/dCp-U_MkSXc

' As disturbing as it is, Andrea Yates’ killing of her five children, to prevent them ever running the risk of going to hell, was a theologically sound thing to do.'

wow AJ the theologian now. I wish I could say stick to science but you also fall short there.

Ah, the Courtier’s Reply fallacy. Thanks for that, runner.

<<wow AJ the theologian now.>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtier%27s_Reply

No, I’ve never claimed to be a theologian. However, as with science, I do know a damn sight more about Christian theology than you. Islamic theology, too, as we recently found out.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18988&page=0#338648

Is there any topic that you're actually competent with? I mean, if a religious fundamentalist like youself can't even get their own theology right...

Sheesh.

'Is there any topic that you're actually competent with? I mean, if a religious fundamentalist like youself can't even get their own theology right...'

maybe not AJ but very easy to detect a fraud like you.