Paul,

How long do you think it will take your to finish the Old Testament and start on the New Testament? I've known some slow readers in my time, but you take the cake.

Joe,
Why don't you ask Kirralie Smith, she would most likely know where the money goes from halal certification.

In relation to abattoirs, because most of the smaller ones have closed down, I would expect most today are halal certified as lots of meat products are sold to muslim dominant countries. Bet Butch has some contacts that would know the killing procedures and so on. I may be wrong but to my knowledge, a muslim rep simply says a prayer over each pen that is about to be slaughtered. Bearing in mind that some places kill thousands each day. If I was looking to find cruelty in slaughter, I would look at the private slaughtering that goes on after Ramadam each year.

ttbn, could you please send me a copy of your sanitized version of the Bible, all three pages of it. "Modern" Christians like to lock their churches history in a cupboard so it never sees the light of day.
Father Joe, tried to suggest I did not know what I was talking about when it came to Christianity "Obviously you (Paul1405) have no clue about what true religion is about. It defines human society and our individual responsibilities to that society". By chapter and verse I gave him the facts on some of that Christian responsibilities a it pertains to black people. If god has redefined that responsibility recently I am not aware of it.

I have read the Bible, all of it, not just the la-di-da feel good bits that "modern" Christians would like the world to believe they accept. I am a tolerant person, despite the overwhelming evidence about the wrongs of religion, I accept the rights of adherents to freely worship, God, Allah, Porky Pig whoever they like.

I'm thinking of joining the 'National Socialists' myself, swell bunch of guys, did you know they use to run soup kitchens for the poor in Germany.

//While we're on the subject, is all meat marketed in Australia subjected to halal processes//

Seriously?

No, Joe, it isn't. For example, some of it is subjected to kosher practices instead. I have a packet of roo mince currently thawing in my fridge to make bolognaise sauce with (because it's Good Friday, and spaghetti bolognaise is we how show our respect for the Flying Spaghetti Monster): it's not halal certified. I think that would be the case for all game meat. If I could be bothered I could go to a supermarket tomorrow and do further research for you, but why on Earth would I? You're a big boy now and you can do your own research.

But there's something more obvious than that which really should have occurred to smart bloke like you: there is no such thing as halal pig meat. None. Doesn't exist. So for all of those people so worried about halal meat, there's a simple and affordable solution: switch to a pork diet. Yes, I know eating pig all the time will get a bit samey and boring - but at least you'll be actually doing something about your predicament, rather than whining on like some lefty vegan type and expecting somebody else to sort it out for you. What would you have somebody else do? Consumers already have the power to decide whether or not to buy halal meat - what more do you want?

I doubt you will though - I suspect that most people who carry on about halal all the time enjoy whining more than they enjoy a nice bacon sandwich, which I find a bit queer.

Hi Paul,

Yes, practices of four or five thousand years ago, even mythical ones, should be criticised and many of them condemned. If they ever find where an actual Noah is buried, maybe we could dig up his bones and kick them around the cemetery. Jeez, that would make us feel good.

Move on. Everybody else has.

Hi Toni,

Thanks for that. So no pig meat then ? No game meat, since roos are not herded and penned and led up a ramp to be halal slaughtered. Well, I'm thankful for that: a bullet is nice and quick in comparison with slow bleeding, facing Mecca.

Okay, I'll take your advice and stick to pig meat: pork, bacon, ham, a wide range of sausage. And kangaroo mince as well. Yum !

And no dodgy extra charges ! Win-win !

Joe

Paul,

I agree with Father Joe, whoever he is, and his comments on your lack of knowledge of Christianity. A the very least, you could provide chapter and verse to support your comments about God and black people. We don't all live in the dark past and dwell on outmoded ideas.