http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/inner-west/inner-west-council-smashes-weekend-event-hosted-by-antichildhood-vaccination-advocate-david-avocado-wolfe/news-story/cc34563139b468b0932ebfc6acfc04c7

Inner West Council (i.e. one man dictator, Richard Pearson) has banned the booking of the Marrickville Town Hall for a dance party, because anti-vaccination advocate David “Avocado” Wolfe was going to *attend* it.

The party was promoting *raw food*, which is another reason Wolfe is in town.
According to the promoters, there was no forum for the discussion of vaccination.

Guilt by association = Big Brother thought crime.

What is wrong with these people (sorry, person, singular)?

Though I personally wouldn't support everything David Wolfe believes or promotes, I would support his right to express his opinion, even on topics I disagree with.

If you don't want to hear what he has to say, don't go.
If his opinion on a certain topic is controversial, then that in turn promotes awareness off the issue which also results in putting these controversial ideas to the test.

I don't know what activist organisations target anti-vaxxers but I'm sure there would be a coordinated effort to do so by the vaccine corporations.
For them I'm sure it would be more costly not to do so.

I support further research into possible links between Vaccines and Autism (I'm curious of reports of coverups by Big-Pharma).
I'd also support understanding the effects of 'Roundup' glysophates on our fresh produce and I also support long term studies into whether GMO is as good for the body as natural foods are.

Glysophates and GMO's are now banned in many countries, this could ultimately just be about the financial interests of multi-national corporations.

//The party was promoting *raw food*//

Well I sure hope the dumb hippies were planning to serve chicken & seafood kebabs.

//What is wrong with these people//

Bloody good question. I think the answer may be as simple as paranoia in some cases, but in others it seems like a case of 'I want to believe'.

//Guilt by association = Big Brother thought crime.//

You're right - the people should not be denied a dance party because of one idiot. The party should have gone ahead, and Wolfe should have been placed in a pillory where he could enjoy the raw food being pelted by passerbys - forget eggs and tomatoes, I'd be cracking out a whole frozen watermelon.

How does an areshole like this get a visa in the first place? They can be refused on character grounds, and this dick promotes child abuse. Which retard let him into the country in the first place?

//I support further research into possible links between Vaccines and Autism//

Christ on a bike...

AC, there are no links between vaccines and autism. The only basis people have for claiming there is the FRAUDULENT paper of one Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

Wakefield 'cooked the books' - he FABRICATED DATA. Instead of doing what scientists are supposed to do - conduct experiments, measure the results and record those measurements - Wakefield skipped the last step and recorded some numbers he plucked from thin air. That is not science, AC. I suppose, at a stretch, one could call it creative writing - but not good creative writing, because good creative writing is supposed to be entertaining. It's just lies. And we've known it's lies for a good long while now, but you're still repeating those lies because you want to believe.

Unsurprisingly, no other researchers have been able to replicate Wakefield's made-up results. Without Wakefield's paper, which must be excluded because it's utter bollocks, the scientific evidence for any link between vaccines and autism drops to zero. None. The number 1 less than 1. Any scientific support for the idea you might think exists...

...comes from the same place as Wakefield's results - your imagination.

Which won't stop people thinking there is. Idiots are gonna idiot. As far as I can see, the main reason there is still so much support for this false belief is that the symptoms of autism presenting themselves occurs at around the same time as kids with non-neglectful parents have them vaccinated. Because of the temporal correlation some people assume causation, which is a daft assumption: kids also grow rapidly at that age, and nobody suggest that 'vaccines cause rapid growth in children' (although missing out on lots of childhood diseases probably is good for your growth).

//I also support long term studies into whether GMO is as good for the body as natural foods are.//

Natural foods? There's no such thing - we've been genetically modifying organisms since we invented agriculture. Potatoes are in the same family as deadly nightshade (so are tomatoes), and if you ate a natural potato you could well die of solanine poisoning. The ancient Peruvians who so helpfully domesticated the spud for us had to genetically modify them to make them edible.

As for more recently genetically modified crops - those studies have already been done. Guess what? They came up with the answer that yes, they are just as good. From wikipedia: "The main conclusion to be drawn from the efforts of more than 130 research projects, covering a period of more than 25 years of involving more than 500 independent research groups, is that biotechnology, and in particular GMOs, are not per se more risky than e.g. conventional plant breeding technologies."

No wonder you support further research into GMOs - all that money spent on all those studies, and not a single one of them came up with the answer you were hoping for, because you want to believe.

Presumably you will continue to support further research until at least one study comes up with the 'right' answer, at which point you will wave that around to 'prove' the evils of GMOs like you do with Wakefield's FRAUDULENT study and vaccines.

Tony, the point isn't whether any one man's views on vaccines is legitimate, it's that one man had the power to silence it, and that the banned event had nothing to do with the vaccination issue!

"Instead of doing what scientists are supposed to do - conduct experiments, measure the results and record those measurements - Wakefield skipped the last step and recorded some numbers he plucked from thin air. That is not science"

Nobody conducted those controlled tests to "prove" HIV causes AIDS, but I'm sure you accept that too.

The problem with orthodoxies in a liberal democracy is that dissenters and alternatives are always outnumbered by the orthodox "mob".

In policy-by-social-media, the outliers are always going to be silenced by mob rule.

And to silence people and events merely by indirect *association* is even more unethical.
And for *one unelected man* to have that power is astronomically diabolical!

Hey Toni,
"...but you're still repeating those lies because you want to believe"
Please quote where or retract. Lol
You know I didn't say that.

Whether or not theres any truth to that Andrew Wakefield thing and what you're saying I'm don't know.
It sounds as though you've looked into it and and that's good.
And if you think there's a counter argument that discredits that story, then in fairness I'd want to hear out that side of the argument as well.

Whether or not there is a connection between any of the things I mentioned and Autism doesn't change the fact that rates of Autism are increasing.
It can't hurt to double check things.
What's everyone afraid of?
Lost corporate billions?
Isn't it smarter to 'leave all potential lines of enquiry open' until such a time as the mystery is solved?

And I still don't get this whole 'brainwashed pro-vaccine parents blaming other anti-vaxxine parents who choose not to give their kids vaccines' BS.

For the conditions that infants are vulnerable to I can understand there being a need for those shots, but can you explain this to me:

If your kid has been vaccinated,
And my kid hasn't been vaccinated,
And your kid catches the disease from my kid
(because you're blaming me for not vaccinating)

Doesn't it stand to effing reason that the vaccine didn't work?
As in 'Inoculation' 'Inoculated'
Did we forget what these words mean?

If your kids been vaccinated, he or she's not supposed to be able to get it.
Why bother shooting the kids up up all, and risk the side effects if it doesn't even work?

Can anyone explain that?

And BTW I'd never heard of David 'Avacado' Wolfe before reading this thread topic.