…Continued

<<Being forced to allow a doctor to administer to your child something which may have major side effects ...>>

... is fine if the alternative is worse.

<<What the anti-vaxxers essentially want is 'Informed Consent'>>

And what we NEED is herd immunity. No one has the right to compromise the health and lives of other people’s children by compromising herd immunity (and yes, I’m aware that quacks think herd immunity isn’t real. It is.) My right to swing my arms ends before your face.

<<They will try to tell you all anti-vaxxers are are these evil people who are rubbing their hands together with glee hoping other peoples kids die from not taking shots...>>

Who’s “they”? I’ve haven’t been told anything. Certainly nothing like that. (You need cease with this penchant conspiracy theorists have to assume that you lot are a special bunch who have managed to see through the propaganda of the Illuminati or the Lizard Men (or whoever it is that you think schemes and plots in cigar-smoke-filled rooms), while the rest of us are mere sheep.) I think we’ll leave that kind of fear-mongering to the quacks. What those of us, who actually care about what the science says, understand is that anti-vaxxers have a worldview that sees everything through the lens of conspiracy, and are often almost-paralysed by a world in which they see nothing but toxins. It’s a misguided and dogmatic concern driven. It’s also a form of privilege.

<<Or are you thinking about anti-vaxxers just precisely the way the vaccine makers want you to think?>>

What was I just saying?

The conspiratorial mindset is one that sets itself up to be fact proof: every time you stumble upon information that fits your preconceived ideas, that’s evidence that you’re right; every time you’re confronted with information that contradicts your conspiracy theories, it’s just Big-Pharma/Big-Agra/Big-Government/etc. trying to fool you.

It’s win-win for the conspiratorial mindset, and lose-lose for the individual whose mind has been poisoned by conspiratorial thinking.

aC it's not of someone catches something they have been vaccinated for.. It minimises the danger of catching something you have not been immunised against . There is no cure for the flue but it minimises the effects so you will not die or worse.

Well you numbats just both stepped in a huge big pile of your own feces, because I just finished watching the 90minute documentary movie Vaxxed: From Cover Up To Catastrophe just several minutes ago...
This is the movie Wakefield was talking about in the previous link.
I could not find one single instance where he said something I disagreed with.

Here's an interesting fact.

Did you know they DON'T test vaccines in the manner of 'vaccinated v's non-vaccinated' in their studies? No.
I knew I should've been taking notes.

And Toni, please watch the documentary and become informed on these facts before you criticise any more, for your own sake.

I dare any of you lot to watch that documentary become informed and get back to me before you continue making fools of yourselves; but of course you wont.
And when you realise AJ that just maybe you were a dumb sheep after all, that on this occasion I didn't actually say it, you did.
Please watch the documentary, I beg you.
I only wish I could see the stupid look on your faces.

luv to watch it. Where did you see it? I saw several clips and interviews from the film. I thought the Aussie Govt. had banned it and had wondered where to view it. I suspect it exposes so many holes in the 'science settled' brigade.

Hey runner,
You can get it from google play or stream it directly from their website.
http://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Vaxxed_from_Cover_Up_to_Catastrophe?id=SpQyYTs5LTg&hl=en&ct=t()
http://vaxxedthemovie.com/stream/

Yes, Yes, Armchair Critic. I’ve seen Vaxxed. I downloaded a torrent of it months ago (ain’t no way I’m gonna pay to be lied to for a couple of hours) and I’d have to say it was the most painful couple of hours I had spent since watching God’s Not Dead 2.

<<Well you numbats just both stepped in a huge big pile of your own feces, because I just finished watching the 90minute documentary movie Vaxxed: From Cover Up To Catastrophe just several minutes ago...>>

And let me guess: you just swallowed up every bit of crap they fed to you? Look out world! Armchair Critic has now “done his research” and is ready to take on those scientific sceptics!

That’s adorable.

<<Did you know they DON'T test vaccines in the manner of 'vaccinated v's non-vaccinated' in their studies?>>

Which studies?

<<I knew I should've been taking notes.>>

Yes, you should have. Then perhaps you could address at least something from my last couple of posts to you, instead of pretending they didn't happen.

<<I dare any of you lot to watch that documentary become informed and get back to me before you continue making fools of yourselves; but of course you wont.>>

Done and done. Well, don’t we feel like the fool now, AC?

<<And when you realise AJ that just maybe you were a dumb sheep after all, that on this occasion I didn't actually say it, you did.>>

No, I didn’t say I was a dumb sheep, but you’ve implied it twice now.

<<I only wish I could see the stupid look on your faces.>>

Yes, if we were even half as gullible as you, I bet they'd be priceless.

Oh, the humanity!