I'm waiting for all (or even one) moderate Muslims to tell us which parts of the Qur'an no longer apply, which parts are no longer considered to be the binding word of Allah.

You've got Muslim friends, Foxy, perhaps you could ask them?

Is Mise, 2 Black Africans.
Two?!
Only because of that evil colonialism thing.

Most of their "descendents" are probably mixed so much, they look like regular Aussies, or have blended into the "indigenous" mob.
Neither probably made any significant contribution. They were criminals, remember.

Picking at the scraps of non-European elements does not change the overall result.

The 99.99999999% of the early settlers who were European blended together to create a new people.
They didn't and couldn't stay in cloistered little ghettos with "their" people.
That new people, Australians, are not "immigrants". No other land is their homeland.

All peoples, except maybe some Ethiopians, are the results of migrations and/or invasions.
We have as much right to exist as a people as any other people.
That right is increasingly, perpetually, encroached upon by adding millions of unrelated peoples.

Those people may be tax-paying good neighbours in good times, but what happens in bad?

The peace and prosperity of post-WWII are a historical anomaly that could end for any number of reasons, including civil unrest by those very immigrants or unforeseen economic or natural disasters.
Then it will be tribe against tribe, like it always has been throughout history.

Ethnic "blindness" is a utopian idealism that can only lead to horror when something unexpected opens our eyes.

Shockadelic, "Ethnic "blindness" is a utopian idealism that can only lead to horror when something unexpected opens our eyes"

But first, Ethnic 'blindness' is a utopian idealism of white, virtue-signalling leftists, many of whom enjoy government sinecures and have never been required to produce anything of practical benefit.

Foxy,

While I disagree with most of what has been said on this thread, where the various forms of violence against women, gays and non muslims, as written in the Koran, is not refuted (even sometimes supported) by senior clerics is a serious point of concern.

Hi Shockadelic,

You might be surprised at how many Africans, or African-Americans, or West Indians, etc. were around in the early days.

In the more cosmopolitan Province of south Australia, in contrast to back-waters like NSW or Victoria, there are quite a few references to African etc. in the letters of the Protector of Aborigines and elsewhere.

The 'last Kaurna woman' was married to a Black American bloke who was born in Adelaide (?!) around 1850. There were African-Americans living on Kangaroo Island around 1836: I think one was a ship's captain, a cruel bastard, so his men threw him overboard.

The Protector of Aborigines was providing rations to a bloke who turned out to be from Mauritius. A Creole (presumably African-American ?) woman married an Aboriginal bloke on the Murray in the late nineteenth century. A bloke from the Cape Colony was living with Aboriginal people down on the Coorong in 1860. An African-American fisherman was buying fish from the Aboriginal people around Lake Alexandrina at about the same time. There may have been a bloke living on the Upper Murray too.

No, there weren't all that many, but they may have had quite an impact on SA history. Probably there was no less an impact in other States. I do know of a bloke from Bermuda, possibly originally a slave from Dominica, who was brought out to work on the Newcastle port-building in 1837. He could have been my gr.-gr.-gr.-grandfather. I like to think so.

Cheers,

Joe

Yes any violence should be a concern for all of us - be it
against women, men, or children. And it would be very
commendable if all the religious practitioners would
condemn it from their pulpits. Also the sexual abuse
of children has been ignored by so many of the hierarchy
within religious organisations for so long.

As for "ethnic blindness?"

"The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but
no vision".
(Helen Keller).