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"Our culture
has been enriched and enhanced by the many who have given
so much to this land."

Except for the Muslims.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 25 February 2017 2:49:07 PM
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"Ancestors of Australian born Australians were immigrants
who built this country and culture to what it is today"

You mean that those 'AngloSaxon' settlers, engineers, governors, bureaucrats and convicts actually did put in the hard yards and their nation building and systems of law and government that are now appreciated by many others, was a success story?

Quick, some qualifying statement is necessary.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 25 February 2017 4:11:57 PM
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Foxy: Our culture has been enriched and enhanced by the many who have given so much to this land.

I agree with that statement Foxy. Fortunately those many have been beneficial & of a similar Culture & Religion. Take Lithuanians for example.

Unfortunately the people arriving from the Middle East are of a completely different mindset. They are retaining their ancient Culture & Religious belief in Australia & not integrating. They wish to impose their Governmental System, Society & Religion on Australia. A Culture that is not commensurable with Modern Society or Culture anywhere in the World. They "are" creating huge problems for the safety & wellbeing of Australians & past Immigrants.

I'm sure that Lithuanians didn't force Australia to have a security watch when they arrived. The Group from Middle East are doing just that. That's not an integration, that's an invasion. Some invasions are beneficial (D Day) but theirs is far from it.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 25 February 2017 4:44:41 PM
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Millions of alien people. Just 2.2 per cent of Australians, or 476,300 people, identified as Muslim in the 2011 census. However using Middle east algebra and shonky Allahware ( look for crescent moon shapes on your toolbar) the book numbers are { 65 / Bxsq. Va.kg / Muzz. 7%} or 12.8 bikies per home invasion.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 25 February 2017 5:09:59 PM
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Time to ditch the sacred cow that any and all immigration is good. Concentrate on bringing in the best skills available in the most suitable migrants.

"UK: What British Muslims Really Think
by Soeren Kern
April 17, 2016 ute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.

"[W]e have to adopt a far more muscular approach to integration than ever, replacing the failed policy of multiculturalism... Britain's liberal Muslims are crying out for this challenge to be confronted. ... There is a life-and-death struggle for the soul of British Islam -- and this is not a battle that the rest of us can afford to sit out. We need to take sides... We have 'understood' too much, and challenged too little -- and in doing so are in danger of sacrificing a generation of young British people to values that are antithetical to the beliefs of most of us, including many Muslims."
— Trevor Phillips, former head of Britain's Equality and Human Rights Commission.

The survey does show that 88% of British Muslims believe Britain is a good place for Muslims to live. According to Philips, this is because the tolerance they enjoy in Britain allows them to do whatever they want.."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 25 February 2017 5:37:20 PM
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Dear Jayb,

Business Insider Australia, November 22, 2014 tells us:

"Debates over the rise of Islamic extremism have
made life pretty tough for Australian Muslims who
have copped their fair share of abuse, stereotyping
and prejudice in recent years as fears and tensions
heightened. Many people don't realise Islam is the
4th largest religious grouping in Australia after
Christianity, irreligion, and Buddhism accounting
for 2.2% of the country's population according to
the 2011 census."

The article goes on to say that " And while many
Australian Muslims have emigrated from Lebanon,
Turkey, Bangladash... over a 3rd are Australian born."

The article then lists 15 famous Muslim Australians that
we may not have known were Muslim. There's many more that
could be added to that number. All are people who have made
a contribution to this country.

Anyway, here is the link that may be of some interest to
you:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/15-famous-australians-you-may-not-have-known-were-muslim-2014-11#Nazeem Hussain
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 25 February 2017 5:45:23 PM
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