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Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts

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Albie
I'll be mountain in the wind.
Got it.
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Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 23 February 2017 4:25:38 PM
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Hey AJ Philips,
I can accept you hold a different opinion, but I don't know why you would.

This targeting of 'fake news' isn't really about 'fake news' at all.
It's politically motivated to target conservative pro-sovereign websites, and websites critical of the establishment or supportive of Trump.
If Hillary Clinton had've won the'd be going after the 'alt-right' anyway.
I read that 'Reddit' have also deleted a popular Trump forum as well.

- So what you have is Silicon Valley working together to deliberately cut the funding and shut down the speech of people they don't agree with.
I really shouldn't have to go further into this topic and the danger this represents.

"The last one was about the rape crisis Sweden isn't having."
Really? Well you've obviously been eating up the crap they spoon feed you.
Here's a good one; 'Swedish Prime Minister Mocks Trump Hours Before Riots Break Out In Stockholm'
http://sputniknews.com/europe/201702211050921339-swedish-prime-minister-riots-trump/
Interesting... Obviously your news didn't inform you of that one...
What about this: 'Swedish Police: Government Covering Up Huge Migrant Crime Spree'
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/25428-swedish-police-government-covering-up-huge-migrant-crime-spree
Did you hear about how liberal left girls went to a festival to welcome the migrants; and then got gang raped for hours while the police and security looked on?
No because their government are progressive feminists and you could be put in jail talking about this is a 'hate crime'.
http://www.rt.com/viral/376258-swedish-deputy-pm-trolls-trump/

Maybe you have 'Stockholm Syndrome'?
I'm betting you're just watching the wrong news.

"Managed by Alex Jones..."
I don't need someone else's opinion of what the show is.
I watch it often enough to form my own opinion.
Feel free to try it and find out.
http://youtu.be/RNOrQSn34Y8
If you find anything 'fake' let me know.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 February 2017 9:30:18 PM
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[cont]
I've now also seen evidence of Google removing sites (including individual pages) from it's search index.
One of the sites that was recently threatened to attack Infowars.com or be destroyed has now been completely delisted.
None of its 140,000 pages of content are accessible through google search.

You do all realise that none of our own national freedom of speech laws will matter in a globalist world where the rules are dictated by the corporations?
Anyway...

Albie Manton from Darwin,
You think around 2005 hey?
After Facebook started but before the GFC?
Sounds almost spot on actually because it coincides around the exact time 'Media Matters' came on the scene, a year earlier in mid 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 24 February 2017 2:08:28 AM
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Banjo, how are those stats going? Any tends emerging? I asked you to comment on a couple of high profile murder cases which fitted your bill oerfectly, but not a peep out of you. Are you simply a far right blowhard who see everything through his minds eye and nothing else.

A bit of a refresher;

1. Farmer, Ian Turnbull murders environmental officer Glen Turner, Turnbull receives 35 years jail.

2. Girl friend of Man Monis, Amirah Droudis murder Monis's ex-wife Helen Lee, Droudis receives 44 years jail.

It not sex crime, but please tell me all about it, did Turnbull receive a light sentence, did Droudis receive too harsh a sentence, did they both receive too harsh a sentence, or too light a sentence, or was it all okay by you. The permutations are somewhat long. Then if one or both sentences are wrong, what should they be?

"The types of crimes I (Banjo) will look for are rape of women, especially underage girls, sexual assaults, underage marriages." Better not look at car thieves, might turn up some of the good guys.

If I missed your reply among all the other rubbish I apologist in advance.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 February 2017 10:12:00 AM
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Typical Paul1405, constantly demanding that others provide evidence - which he takes no notice of anyhow and immediately changes the goal posts - but he himself never sees why he should give any facts at all.

What the OP is asking about is real enough, but it needs to be put another way. In sentencing there are objective and subjective matters considered. Objective could be that the rape was committed against a girl minor. Subjective could be that the gang who committed the rape are indigenous, or from the Sudan, where their upbringing/exposure excused or diminished rape and/or it was a common offence, or what Australian law would also construe as other serious offences , were being committed. It is not enough that the offender knew it was an offence there and in Australia, nor that he chose to commit the crime.

It is not the ethnicity that might reduce the sentence but the defence barrister's claimed sorry background of the offender. However, multicultural political correctness that is often reflected in government policy can also influence judges, and police and prosecutors too, who know that some cases can be thrown out of court or treated leniently.

Banjo and many others in the electorate are experiencing difficulty understanding why factors arising from the membership of a particular ethnic group should excuse and diminish their culpability and the sentencing. In similar threads n example was cited of community pressure resulting in the successful Qld appeal against the slap on the wrist for the rape of an indigenous child minor by indigenous gang rapists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/world/asia/11australia.html

Of course the Greens are soft on criminals and are forever going on about criminals rights, and are always forgetful where the rights of victims of crime and public safety are concerned.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 25 February 2017 11:36:15 AM
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Armchair Critic,

What constitutes fake news has nothing to do with the political persuasion of the news. Fake news is the deliberate spreading of misinformation, and it’s easy to spot.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/How_to_Spot_Fake_News.pdf

Even Trump uses the term, only he applies it to real news.

<<Really? Well you've obviously been eating up the crap they spoon feed you.>>

Yes, really. This touches on my area of expertise, so I have the know-how to quickly to verify the claim myself without having to be “spoon fed” anything.

In short, the number of REPORTED rapes in Sweden has claimed dramatically and there are two factors influencing this increase: increased reporting rates, and the broadening of the scope of what constitutes a rape. The most accurate way of determining the actual rate of rapes is through victim report surveys, and these indicate that there has been no change in the last 10 years.

Sweden is not in the midst of a rape crisis. This is a right-wing internet rumour.

Thanks for the links, but most lead to fake news sites. Can you provide some credible sources?
Posted by AJ Philips, Saturday, 25 February 2017 11:42:27 AM
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