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Victoria finally getting tough on young foreign born criminals

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This is interesting:
Pauline Hanson told reporters it was a terrorist attack within half an hour of the event taking place, she told them it was “what she had been informed”.

http://www.mandurahmail.com.au/story/4416955/pauline-hanson-meeting-descends-into-farce-as-she-confuses-candidates-blames-bourke-street-incident-on-terrorists/

I'd like to know who told her it was a terrorist attack, and who or what caused the police and media to say it wasn't.
Google "police say bourke st not a terrorist attack" - plenty of article references...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:13:58 AM
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Just saw a video of a bystander at the scene this afternoon saying the offender was screaming 'Allah Ackbar' as he was running people down.
I can't give a link however as it is a live youtube broadcast for the Trump inaugruation at 3am.

So now the independent media is making fun our our nations media for reporting him as 'mentally ill' and not reporting on the fact he was 'Islamic' and the event was terror related.

We're a actual joke.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:03:15 AM
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Armchair Critic - From my reading of a number of articles I would tend to believe it is not terrorist related.

What I think is he is definitely a criminal who has stabbed his brother taken a woman hostage, she escapes and he knows the police know and are after him and he will go to jail for a long time.

So he does what he did to give himself great notoriety to me from my reading it wasn't planned in advance.

He may have posted things on facebook in the past that people can draw a parallel to imply terrorism.

Coming up with the correct wording is hard, but in my opinion not terrorist just a lowlife wanna be thug.
To him he has nothing to loose by taking the action he did.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:23:20 AM
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I may have to review what I said but at the moment I have seen no credible references or information about what he is alleged to have screamed.

If he was screaming 'Allah Ackbar' there would be lots of people who would have heard it so it should eventually get to the MSM.

So at the moment I am for not terrorist related.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:31:13 AM
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Hey Phillip S,
I found the video I saw from the live broadcast.
It's a shame its not a longer video and we don't hear what else was said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syF0IOhXmx8

Some reports seem to suggest he was just a drug fueled local with mental issues, but even your express.co.uk article noted that he'd said "since he came to Melbourne".
- When did he come to Melbourne and where did he come from?
Didn't his facebook posts say he was a 'Greek / Kurdish Islamist' or something to that effect?

On Victoria Police Facebook page, a police spokesperson says
"...assessment means currently it has not made the threshold of a terrorist incident as there is no evidence of a linkage to identified threats."

http://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/

I guess the police are saying they need a link to class it as terrorism related, whilst for the people we could argue if some idiots running people over screaming "Allahu Ackbar", with numerous people dead and dozens injured that's terrorism, pure and simple.

We need clarification between the police, media and public on what terrorism related events actually are.
Too much of playing things down in my opinion, and of treating the public like fools.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 January 2017 1:54:04 AM
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The incident was not terrorism related.

The man is known to police. He has a history of
mental illness and family violence and was out
on bail when he went crazy. He'd stabbed his brother
earlier that morning and his rage escalated during
the day. My next door neighbour was at the scene
and gave us a full account of what happened.
It's a shame that the man could not have been stopped
in his car before he caused the dreadful damage that he did.
There is plenty of information available in the media.
All you need to do is Google it.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/live-pedestrians-hit-gunshots-heard-in-melbourne-cbd-20170120-gtvf3x.html
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 21 January 2017 10:09:29 AM
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