Hi IS MISE...

You say inter alia, '...Self defence is a natural right and we naturally have that right...'. Correct, only NOT with a firearm, unless you're appropriately licensed to carry a F/A, expressly for that purpose.

However you may defend yourself with any other article, as long as that article is not carried for the explicit purpose of defending yourself.

It's been often said, 'the law is an Ass'. However I would say it's our politicians who clearly represent, that which is regularly relinquished from the rear end of that humble 'Ass'?

o sung wu,

I would like to give an example in order to gratefully hear your opinion.

Let's say I live in a small country town. It is late at night. The local police station is usually closed because the main police station 30 miles away looks after the whole area as a way of saving police resources.

At about 1 am I hear screaming in the neighbours house, then more screaming. I become concerned. usually that neighbour is quiet and decent, the husband too. I know them. Very very respectable.

I then hear a moaning sound coming from that house and then I immediately call the police but the line is busy. I hear another short scream.

I try to call the police again, still busy.
I get my rifle and go quietly toward the neighbors house.
I see a strange car at an angle in the driveway and a man is standing near the drivers door. I hear another scream but the man at the car does nothing about the scream. I hear another scream.

I fire a shot in the air from my 222 and it makes a very loud noise in the night.
Another man comes out of the door of the house. The man at the car quickly gets into the drivers seat.
The man coming from the house fires a shot at me, and then another shot.
I hear what I think is a bullet whizzing past my head.
I fire back and that man falls dead.
The man in the car gets out with his hands up.

The husband comes out of the house and helps tie up the car driver.
We both contact the police and they take 30 minutes to arrive.

Now, I carried my 222 over there to defend myself.
Is that illegal under present law, o sung wu?

A Melbourne Jewelry store owner was able to defend off three armed robbers today by yelling at them to leave. Learn how to defend yourself in the case of a home invasion, and you do not need a firearm. There is many technical appliances today that can prevent home invasions.

Josephus

Do you think electronic shark repellant might be technical enough to frighten a home invader out of you house?

Hi there JF AUS...

An interesting scenario you present us all with. If I was the attending detective my first question would be;

Why did you initially approach this house, bearing a F/A, and what was your intention when there? Why did you discharge two shots from your F/A? Was your life or anor's under immediate threat of serious injury or death, when you initially discharged your F/A?

JF AUS, depending on your answers, you could well be found culpable and face a charge of manslaughter even murder? Lets assume for a moment, the individual who alighted from the M/V with his hands raised, claims his friend who was in the process of emerging from the house, thought the original two shots, were directed at him, and seeing that you're armed, he therefore fired upon you in self defence, because he feared for his life? Despite the fact he may well have committed crime(s) therein, is substantially immaterial JF AUS.

It is very much what's in the mind of the Coroner that counts, not so much what police may contend, in the facts as disclosed. You've approached this dwelling house, while armed, why? What was your intention with the F/A? What was your reason for discharging your F/A in or near a public street or place? A smart silk could tire you up, every which way.

If the detectives are onside, they can potentially 'soften' the circumstances somewhat, of your contemporaneous actions of the night in question. By asserting on your behalf, as a concerned resident, after failing on several occasions to arouse and galvanize police attendance, you tried to render aid as best you could as a decent public spirited citizen. You could well get a pat on the head, for being a heroic resident.

JF AUS...Believe me my friend, introduce a F/A into any equation you like in this day and age. Beware, it can turn 'pear-shape' faster than one can imagine, in this climate of the righteous LEFT?

The gunnies would have us believe that crime in Australia is out of control, and police forces are failing in their duty. Statistics supplied by the ABS in fact paint a somewhat different picture, your chances of being a victim of violent crime is diminishing, whilst your chances of becoming a victim of non violent crime, the white collar stuff, such as fraud is on the increase. You are more likely to be robbed by a bloke in a business suit than someone in a balaclava.
Do the gunnies suggest you take your six shooter and blow a hole in the crocked financial dealer in the Gucci shoes and suit who robbed you of your life savings, or just the balaclava bandit who stole your wallet with fifty bucks in it?

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/4510.0

Is Mise do you not advocate for self defense purposes, guns for prisoners in jails, you did say all Australians, so they can defend themselves against attacks by other inmates. Do you also advocate guns for children in kindergartens, you did say all Australians, to defend themselves against the other more violent child. What about people in mental institutions, do they not have that all encompassing right to defend themselves with a gun. After all, you did say all Australians.