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Guns made it possible for Australia to have a virtual private army.
Guns were there if needed to protect property and families and the individual.

And along came John Howard chasing headlines and votes.
Then came the mad idiot that caused mayhem and death at Port Arthur.
Then PM Howard jumped on the political bandwagon and outlawed guns among most of Australia's law abiding and decent citizens.

Thousands of people are killed on roads but cars are not made illegal.

So what should happen if and when a throat slitting intruder starts butchers people in the street or comes into our home?
Should we just find the phone and call and answer the operatorís questions and then wait 5 or more minutes for police to get the message and respond and arrive - while the throat slitting or other bloodshed and killing continues?

Why should a competent responsible husband or wife not have a rifle or shotgun to defend themselves or family or neighbours?
Surely we have a right to protect ourselves.
As with road safety, gun safety could be part of obtaining a license.

Criminals can still get guns, pistols included. Knives too, and there seems no difference from being dead from a gun or knife or from mass killing by a bomb.

Gun laws in Australia should be reviewed because of the new danger from throat slitting's and foreign brainwashing agenda.
Even the radicals and terrorists already have or can get guns or bomb materials.

Who knows how long it may be before a mob of killers begin to invade house to house along your street? Think about it. Not impossible.

There are not enough police and nor are they adequately equipped to deal with terror mob butchers and killers. They should be fully equipped.

We are no longer as safe as we could be, if we were at least armed with a bolt action low magazine-capacity rifle that would increase our safety.

Australia could once again have it's own unseen private army. Why not?
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 22 October 2016 4:51:39 PM
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//Who knows how long it may be before a mob of killers begin to invade house to house along your street? Think about it. Not impossible.//

No, not impossible. Just like the invading swarms of killer bees. How do you shoot a swarm of bees?

Or the triffids. How do you fire a gun after the triffids have you made blind? Or the army of giant, hyper-intelligent crabs that I just know are going to walk out of the ocean any day now and enslave mankind - how will our puny bullets penetrate their power armour? Think about it. Not impossible.

Just extremely bloody unlikely and, frankly, a bit silly to be entertaining paranoid fantasies about.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 23 October 2016 9:44:08 AM
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We will never have a "private army". That would really have have the politicians packing the proverbial. Gun control is like any other control from the top down: it keeps us powerless, which is what governments want.

While there is sense in restricting certain firearms, I think that the control over ordinary sporting shooters is the most draconian in the "free" world, particularly when there is nothing the 'brave' politicians are able to do about the ample supply of illegal firearms to criminals and terrorists. I have no need of firearms these days, and I think the notion of keeping them for 'self defence' is a dangerous and unecessary. But, I do support the legitimate gun lobby wanting firearms for real reasons. Who knows what they will decide we shouldn't have next?
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 23 October 2016 10:00:38 AM
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Soldiers enter streets and dwellings to find enemies, perhaps legally.
Radical rebels do it to take food and hostages and kill opposition to instill terror.
The Port Arthur dill did it by himself in the street of an old settlement.
Posted by JF Aus, Sunday, 23 October 2016 10:02:20 AM
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As we have a right to self defence then it follows that we have a right to an adequate means of such defence.

In Australia it is a criminal ofence to possess anything for the purpose of self defence.

Seems a bit stupid.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 23 October 2016 10:58:32 AM
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This topic has been done to death on the forum, and is about as interesting as watching re-runs of John Wayne shooting Comanches in one of his stupid old westerns.

To ask a question of gunnie Is Mise, me old sparing partner on this very subject. Please explain how the "Self Defense" nonsense you always go on about, explain exactly how it would work? I expect some straight shooting from you Is Mise, I don't want you ducking for cover as you usually do! Dodge City here we come.

A quote from the gunnies number one pin up boy in Canberra Senator David (Lunatic) Leyonhjelm, he said he would be happy to let police "lie on the side of the road and bleed to death". This is the phony who claims to be a Liberal/Democrat, he is neither liberal or democratic, more likely the head of the storm troopers!

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/video-shows-senator-david-leyonhjelm-saying-he-would-be-happy-to-let-police-bleed-to-death-20161021-gs7ljh.html
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 23 October 2016 1:39:39 PM
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