Imagine dialling ooo with no signal on a country road or in the city with no credit or battery or even no phone.

Try stopping a knife wielding radical. Times have changed and are getting worse.

Really,how many people are killed by guns compared to killed by car accidents or smoking.
Think that through.

Every Australian is entitled to drive a car but it is sensible law that stops mental cases learning to drive and geting a license.

There is obviously increased danger these days from knife wielding druggies and radicals that we did not have to contend with previously.

What should we do, keep guns banned and die from a knife attack?
Think that one through.

True story. A bloke protecting his property with a gun shot his own daughter dead as she came through a window after being out later than she should have been. I'll bet that made him feel pretty good.

Guns don't kill people, algae kills people...

Had a look at that link on the other thread yet mate? It's radical!

Go by results.

33000 Yanks shot dead by other Yanks each year because of the country's open slather with gun possession and ownership. Scaling down from America's 300m population to Australia's 23m, this means 33000 x 23/300 = 2530 Australians shot dead each year if we went down the American path as our tiny but bellowing minority of gun freaks are demanding, including on OLO. Mr Howard's reforms were in addition to background gun restrictions which were already keeping most Australians safe. Mr Howard, by shutting off the series of gun massacres up to and including Port Arthur, saved many Australians' lives though of course it would have been about 2500 a year had we already been operating along the US Slave Owners' Amendment lines demanded by the current crop of Australian gun freaks.

We, the vast majority who wouldn't have voted for Mr Leyonhjelm in a fit, are being subjected to this steady drumbeat of demands by hobbyists who can't enjoy a day out without killing at least SOMETHING living. Those are the deadly enemies of the Australian people who will prevail (look how easily they suborned Mr Turnbull) unless we follow US President Truman's warning: “When a finger creeps under the door stamp on it or it's followed by a hand and soon has you by the throat”

Arming everyone with guns mean the predators shoot the prey dead while the prey are scrabbling around looking for their gun. Every time.

America has hand guns for whoever for all occasions so what sense is there spinning their statistics into Australia where pistols virtually always have been and remain tabu?

Is Mise, do you stand by your statement that;

"every Australian has the right to have a firearm". Such a statement is detached from reality.

Imagine dialling ooo with no signal on a country road or in the city with no credit or battery or even no phone.

Yeah right, by the way you can dial 000 without credit, but I must admit is difficult to do without a phone. Or down a coal mine with 10,000 elephants thundering by during a hail storm, with or without credit.

You can come up with all the ridiculous, way out scenarios to justify the right to possess and use firearms you like. The truth is it has nothing to do with "self protection" but every thing to do with an extreme right wing agenda. Many of these extremest believe Australia is under threat from both external and internal forces which the existing authorities are in league with, or unwilling to combat, and therefore they, along with the general armed and trained public must be prepared to do battle when the time for action is at hand. Arming and organizing the citizenry is all part of being prepared to defend their perverted form of liberal democracy. If a few thousand have to die in the mean time, well its seen as a small price to pay.