I and my family are lucky peoples for being allowed to come to this beaurful lovely place Australie! A great honor for us to be allowed to come here and work and live in peaceful place like Sydney, where there is peace and safety for us always not even policeman come into our house to get us for this or that. Not like they did in Elbasan lots of times no asking, just walk in the door without asking to do so. Sometimes while in Durres in the sea coast of Adriatic, we stay for the holiday with our friends and they policeman can walk into house and no asking to anyway.

JF Aus, policeman have many guns and shoot them all the time plus can hit you if you say things about them or the government leaders to. Thank you sir JF Aus you are a very very nice person but the guns are very very very bad, please understand me and believe me please about the guns are bad, and the policeman bad.

misanthrope,
Bad there but not here.

misanthrope,

Australia is a great place to live and it is men with guns that we have to thank for it.

Tell me, how did the police in Albania travel around?

Did thy have cars?

Don't you think that the cars are to blame also?

Why din't the people use their own guns to resist the evil police?

To my knowledge from 1970, Albania did not have guns or police as we know it, or many cars. It may still be the same.

Of course there may be a hidden illegal gun or two but most Albanian's could not afford a gun let alone ammunition.

Albania was policed by the military that was controlled by dictatorship.
Poverty was long term and dissent was strictly controlled by the military.

Albania is a tiny country that has been locked away from the rest of the world for a long time.

I think the big difference is that Australians have democracy and employment and social security welfare that keeps dissent to a minimum.
No sensible person in Australia wants to become a rebel (criminal) and lose their job or welfare and be put in jail.

In Monrovia alongside the border of Albania the people either walk of have donkeys pulling carts on an old motor car axle and tyres, and I think it would be the same in Albania or worse. e.g. Perhaps more wooden wheels.

Don't get me wrong, in Monrovia I know the people are really nice but many are desperate and I think it would be the same in Albania.
There is virtually no properly paid work or work that is paid for at all.
In Albania the people worked for the state, it was strict communism compared to democracy. Maybe still do.

The point I am trying to make is, I agree it's not good to have guns generally in a nation of poverty stricken desperate people.

People without guns is good for dictators.

Over on the thread about the Adler I make the claim that I can fire 7 shots out of a muzzle loading gun quicker than anyone can fire 7 shots from an Adler lever action shotgun.

Isn't anyone going to say that I'm boasting?

Furthermore I'm willing to put money on being able to do as I claim,
say $10,000 as an opening bet, but much less for those that can't afford that much.

Is Mise

I think you could do as you say by loading seven shots together and firing with one charge.