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Josephus,

Is the home owner to assume that the invader does not mean the occupants any harm?
What's your thoughts on this?

Paul,

The absence of flashing lights in the street and the cries of "POLICE! POLICE! may be a useful indication.

Do you believe in Home Invaders' Rights?"

Why should the victim of the invasion have to determine the exact intent of the invader, surely the invader signaled intent when unlawfully entering.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 10:29:36 AM
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IS MISE...

All your many accomplishments does make me pause a moment or two, wondering whether or not you're in reality Methuselah incarnate? Fencing, Indian Stick fighter, expert shot with all manner of small arms, street fighter etc. ? When all the while I see your hitherto iron clad plausibility diminishing in the distance?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 12:39:55 PM
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Is Mise,
How many times have you been broken into? Be honest!

Many house break in are done by drunks entering the wrong house assuming the wife has locked the doors. So you would shoot a disoriented drunk?
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 2:45:00 PM
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Josephus,

I've never been broken in to, probably because I would appear to offer small pickings,although a house that I owned in Hill End was broken into and a number of items stolen by a person known but subsequently found not guilty.

Getting drunk is the responsibility of the person affected by the grog, not the home owner.

o sung wu,

You are starting to hang things on me that I have never claimed, I'm not an expert at Indian Stick Fighting but I can hold my own, I never claimed anything as a street fighter, only related an experience, it was nothing special and as trained by the real experts in 3RAR, I could have killed him before he knew it.
Of course I'm expert with all types of firearms, they were my everyday job both as a soldier and as a Defence Dept Armourer.

The truth about fencing was that it is a sport requiring fitness and the girls that attended Charles Stanmore's were an exceptionally fit lot, (beautiful too!) but to mix with them required one to attain a certain proficiency with the blades.
I started my interest in sword fighting in 3RAR as we were issued with swords and some of the Officers encouraged proficiency with all weapons, just in case.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 5:23:48 PM
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o sung wu,

Over on the thread about the Adler I make the claim that I can fire 7 shots out of a muzzle loading gun quicker than anyone can fire 7 shots from an Adler lever action shotgun; observations?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 5:38:13 PM
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misanthrope,

It’s good to see you posting here on this site.

In 1970 while diving the Mediterranean coast I had to get past the coast of Albania by driving from Dubrovnic up over the mountains to Peche, at every moment being a bit worried about taking a wrong turn across the border into Albania. I remember the mountain people extending one hand upturned as they tapped it with the other hand seeking a few dollars.
It was common knowledge among travellers that Albania had border guards with machine guns to stop just about all entry and exit.
Of course you can see right here that the presence of guns can keep people away.

I am sorry to hear you have had to witness the death and abuse you refer to but that shows the difference between Albania and Australia.

I think you will agree that economic and social hardship In Albania compared to prosperity and peace in Australia puts people in a very different state of mind.
I think it was military dictatorship in Albania at the time, democracy here.
In Aus it’s generally possible to earn $100 a day take home pay but in Albania it’s not usually possible.
People with a job don’t want to cause trouble, they prefer to keep their job and income and so generally they stay peaceful.

While managing a gulf country station in the NT I often thought of possibility of coming across a gang of illegal refugees or smugglers walking inland from the coast, and I always carried a rifle in the Toyota just in case, and in case a cranky wild bull decided to not leave me alone.

Gun law in Australia is needed but it should allow people of good character to keep a gun as guns were allowed to be kept previously, pre PM Howard.
We have a right to self defence.
And just sight of a gun can prevent a killing.
That’s what I think anyway.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 6:42:19 PM
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