Hi Craig,

I feel weird saying anything vaguely supportive of Drumpf but his opposition to A.T.&T.'s takeover of Time-Warner - if he is genuine - may be the first sensible policy proposal in his campaign.

Apart from that ......

Cheers,

Joe

Hey Craig Minns,

Are you talking about the deplorables like me?

Honestly I think Trump has come a long way in the last month, particularly through the debates, but I'm not going to try to convince anyone against his faults.
We all know the bloke isn't perfect.
I know both candidates are disliked and its the same old story, choosing the lesser evil.

The FBI are completely bought and paid for at the leadership level; (and attorney general Loretta Lynch won't prosecute).
Her crimes have been documented; she was never exonerated.
Long term FBI agents are livid that Hillary wasn't charged.
- And it's not over for her yet, there's so much more the media is deliberately not focusing on to try and get her across the line.

Craig have you seen the three videos over at Project Veritas?
http://www.projectveritasaction.com/

Hillary operatives were attempting to effect the outcome of the election by starting violent confrontations at Trump Rally's which in one case lead to a police officer having his jaw broken in Chicago.

There should be new FBI investigations but the Department of Justice is staying silent at this time, I guess they are trying to fly the whole event under the media radar.

You know AC, I wasn't talking about the people he claims to represent, but the type of thinking that allows decent people to come to the view that he is worth supporting.

I don't think those people are "deplorable", but I do think that they (and you, if you identify with them) have been lead up the garden path, not be Trump, who's just a buffoon, but by their own insecurities, poor education, resentment and years and years of a diet of misinformation and manipulation from media, business and Government. They've got to the point that they can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Hi Joe,
I haven't been following closely enough to make a comment on that. What are the implications?

Hi Craig,

I wouldn't know the full story, but A.T.&T., in a former, fuller life, used to control almost all of US telecommunications, but was broken up (I think in the sixties ? Someone must know better) into regional bodies.

Now it's come back and seeks control of the largest film/TV/media/software (I think) body, Time Warner. It sounds a bit like an effective NBN buying The Australian (or the reverse) and forming one tele-company: just a bit too big.

Actually it sounds out of character for Drumpf, one would think that he would support the deal, in a slimy, backhanded, under-handed, pro-capitalist way. Maybe he'll back-flip.

Cheers,

Joe

Craig "but the type of thinking that allows decent people to come to the view that he is worth supporting." I know that Trump does have a core of supporters who genuinely seem to trust him. I suspect that's a relatively small number of people. The larger number being those who know what a low life he is, will generally admit it it but consider him a lot less dangerous than Clinton.

A bunch of reasons for that but possibly at it's simplest the difference in how effectively the two play the game and the contacts they have in place to protect them. Clinton has shown a remarkable aptitude for getting away with stuff.

Did you watch Christopher Hitchins interview about some of the stuff Bill Clinton is alleged to have been involved in? Obama on the money Hillary was taking from lobbyists etc? Jill Stein on the threat she thinks Hillary poses of starting a nuclear war (based on her track record as Secretary of State)?

She appears to be deeply corrupt (as does Trump) but also with a passion for US intervention in foreign countries (which Trump does not appear to share) and an apparent knack for mishandling those interventions.

Trump is in my view a crook who won't make the US great (again or otherwise). He will probably do great harm internally but seems far less likely to want to bask in power from foreign intervention and in my view is far less likely to start a war we all loose.

R0bert

Hi Craig Minns,
Whilst I accept your point that there is a stereotypical right that probably does encompass some of the traits you mentioned, I honestly don't think it's the full story; not by a long shot.
I'm don't think you can realistically tar all Trump supporters with that brush, though I accepot your point.
I think it's just the establishment line thats been used to demonise this group of people for a long time, 'constitutionalists' because they represent the only real danger or pushback against globalism.

Now I'd be inclined to assert that it's actually you guys who been manipulated and given mistruths about who they are and what they represent, no offence.

Take Obama for example, just last week he's out there saying there's no such thing as electoral fraud, and I've shown you guys damning evidence that this in not the case, and there is overwhelming evidence that Hillary has pulled every dirty trick in the book to try and steal this election.

In many instances, I'd argue that I am definately more informed than the average person who just watches the evening news.

Oh and btw, regards the email scandal, Obama was also sending emails to that private server which makes him complicit, which may have been another reason why Hillary wasn't prosecuted.

This could be Trumps best speech.
It addresses many of the issues which you think define his supporters, and I hope you watch it so that maybe you can get a different point of view.
I really hope you are able to get beneath the hype and media talking points to get down to the crux of why people truly support his stance.

http://youtu.be/t3PgJkuczHU?t=59s