The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Welfare of Australia, Finger Pointing.

Welfare of Australia, Finger Pointing.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. 10
  12. All
Thomas, are you aware that that 20% you despise, are actually the ones paying the bills. This is because the rest either don't pay enough taxes to cover what they draw in welfare, or they don't earn, or earn enough to pay tax. ie, children, seniors and the likes.

It is really that unfair that those who pick up the slack get a bit back?

People have to be a little careful they don't bite the hand that feeds them mate.

Who do you think funds the refugees, those on the dole, or the pensioners, or perhaps those on $50K a year. The answer is NO!. It's the top 20% because they are the ones paying more in tax than they claim back.

Would you like to pay 48cents in the dollar then get the tall poppy treatment just because they are supplying affordable houses for those who rent.

The bills don't pay themselves mate, yet the underachievers think its their given right to hold their hand out. You're living in the past mate, the days of a free ride are coming to an end, and rightly so.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 24 September 2016 7:43:51 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
@rehctub "that that 20% you despise"

What is wrong all the people on this site, that they immediately cannot resist jumping to all these false assumptions about others, and slamming with accusations that only exist in you're own heads?

Is there an unknown virus that people catch via this site when connected? It's simply the weirdest thing I have ever seen online, because it happens so much.

People that I despise? Really! Your evidence for this rehctub is what exactly? the entrails of a sheep?

I'm not interested in having conversations with people who are so disconnected from normal civil discourse and reality.

Have another go or simply don't bother wasting my time or yours.

After getting to the end of the first sentence I stopped reading. and will not read the rest even now.
-
Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Saturday, 24 September 2016 11:31:23 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hey Thomas,
Yes there is a false left / right paradigm and its all about selling its own agenda to the masses rather than giving it to them straight.

It's hard to try to sift through the sales pitch to get to the truth.
Sometimes I do get caught out buying into info contained on non corporate media sites but I do try to keep my feet on the ground when trying to see the bigger picture in things.

Thanks for the link.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 26 September 2016 11:03:45 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Brock..Hi. Don't get me started on the issue of overseas tradespeople. On more than enough occasions at various mine & construction sites, I have had the displeasure of working alongside some of those nationalities you mention.

Get tooled up and on the task and say to tradesperson/TA " Can you go and get us a 46mm 'Flogging spanner' from the store please?"...20 minutes...35 minutes...an hour later they turn up with a 36 inch shifting spanner ffs! Shakes head and mumbles something indecipherable.

I manged to get some of the better ones aside on a job and asked them about the issue of "trade certificates'...it seems that for around $350 Australian you can get the required documents from several agencies in Mumbai...think I'll go and get my "management degree".
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 26 September 2016 11:06:25 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Welfare: unemployment; mental illness pensions; child benefits; old age; youth education allowances; subsidised youth employment; Tafe colleges; school teachers wages, baby sitting benefits; whatever else I have missed. Quoting statistics, complaining problems are getting worse, is little better than listening to QandA.

Politicians and bureaucratic systems I suspect justify their existence on talking and/or writing out reports related to budget financing solutions.

The words “budget restraints” must be politicians and bureaucratic system's godsend. All excuses are placed on limited financing.

QandA panellists answering what looks to be unscripted audience questions, the host limits the amount of time spent on answering audience questions. Panel guest supposed experts often politicians and ex-politicians, tend to justify increasing problems as to express democratic political process. Two politicians of different parties seen arguing on each other's term spent in government.

I argue that on the political side, everything is almost perfect.
Labour needed to feed populations: growing food; transporting food; distribute food in supermarkets, fast food, restaurants. Few people can state they can't easily feed themselves.

Percentage of people earning wages relates to available housing and a need for services, are balanced. Many employment opportunities in education provide employment for teachers, while slowing not needed wage earning employment youth from entering the employment market. University and unskilled youth trying to educate themselves through Tafe colleges and private training services are slowing down youth from entering into wage income employment. I argue is entirely intentional.

One government care provider may care for many unable to care for themselves persons whom are unable to pay for their care giving services. Centrelink bureaucrats obtain employment to manage payments to welfare recipients. I accuse the education system curriculum of traumatising human brain thinking processes, to allow no thinking acceptance, believing media presented cultural responses, beginning from childhood learning years.

Asking for rational discussion on solving long term running problems, leads to instant knee-jerk acknowledgement of mentioned complaints, that excepting acknowledgement of complaints leaves concerned people believing little can be done to solve complaining issues.

My conclusions, unemployment welfare pays people not to work because their labours are not required.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 2:30:26 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Sharks attacking swimmers becomes a problem media focus on. Coming up with solutions to solve rare shark attacks on the N.S.W. north coast, fails due to badly thought, unproven solutions.

A below paragraph taken from below website page:
In 2013, 348 young people aged 15 to 24 years died by suicide - more than any other cause, including road accidents, cancer, and assault. Concerningly, the new data shows an upward trend in the rate of suicide among young people aged 15-19, and the overall rate of suicide among young people aged 20-24 remains stubbornly stable.
http://about.au.reachout.com/youth-suicide-2015/

Psychology professionals will say many mental illness issue problems begin during childhood.
Mothers, if asked, will most probably say, 'soon after their children first attended school, their children's curiosity for questioning parents on what's happening, declines'. I add, if parents were asked, parents would say their children became: drowsy; irritable; ODD; ADHD. When children are asked are to do something, children act as though they don't want to, yet do what's asked. When parents complain to principles, principles fog parents off as normal behaviour, they'll be fine.

Children going to sleep… sleep believed to be an important part of memory development. Childhood brains processing all the daily mental stress feelings and poor achievements, restless brains don’t receive the correct restful sleep. Classroom education in the long term retards human ability to think correctly, neuron pathway development.

Google, “hippocampous stress cortisol”:
http://drgailgross.com/academia/effects-of-stress-on-the-hippocampus/

Mental stress increases cortisol in the blood, over years of too much mental stress, leading to too much kidney glans cortisol production. The brain's important memory learning component the hippocampous, too much cortisol shrinks the hippocampous.
During 1990s ABC television Open Learning programs, a program series on psychology, described how cortisol damages the brain's hippocampous, causing people to become mentally depressed. One (in his 50s) gentleman example, described how he was suffering from years of mental depression. Yet, the man blamed his abusive father
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 2:36:06 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. 10
  12. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy