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Welfare of Australia, Finger Pointing.

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My opinions are, Australia is moving away from: higher skilled; higher paid, workers to more mere minimum wage unskilled: food preparer; waitresses, directed at workers who don't enter university. University students delaying working wage incomes, having to pay university fees, spending many years to obtain degrees, providing higher education teacher employments, in most instances, most final employment skills could have been carried out with less traumatised student' HSC qualifications.

By replacing skilled non-university employment, with imported: motor vehicles; televisions; non-repairable electrical products.

The Australian education system invests too much emphases on academic learning; assessment examinations as though every student is moving towards a university education, after obtaining a HSC.

Recently media stories have mentioned how school leavers take on viable apprentice employment, only to quit soon after... Why?

My arguments are, so much emphases is placed on school students to obtain a HSC, mental stress leading up to completing school HSC, for both capable and far from capable students, destroys students ability to think… being the process of intentional deskilling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deskilling

Machinery and computer programming has replaced the need for skilled thought. Anti-intellectualism.

Many female teenagers who become pregnant, may have done so to escape a futile dummying down school education.

The many students who have no intentions and no ability to obtain any establishment controlled employment which requires a HSC, are persuaded to stay at school because few employment opportunities without a HSC are available. By the time students leave school aged 18 years, another 4 years may be required to complete an apprenticeship to obtain an adult wage.

A 16 year old may have had an ability to think-out skilled apprenticeship tasks. Due to not completing HSC academic mentally stressing, traumatising the thinking processes... aged 16 year olds being still capable of doing thinkable visually seen tasks, to better remember procedures. Aged 16 year olds are more likely to complete apprenticeships.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4542067.htm

Governments acting as though governments have a low-to-no skilled work force problem, merely need to point their finger at themselves to know where the problem over many generations, originally came from.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 1:41:20 PM
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I can remember the days when a father would ask a tradesman if he could take his son on as an apprentice, tradesman would give the kid a three months trial and if the lad shewed promise would have the necessary papers drawn up.
Simple and effective system that produced our formerly very skilled workforce.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 9:51:59 PM
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Well Steve, all I can say is we are what we sew.

The key to any successful kid is loving, caring, motivated parents because with this it is a very hard road if kids have to go it alone.

As a long term employer, rarely do I see a young job seeker with both their mum and dad living under the one roof, so this is the first problem as many a young boy rules the roost once the overpower mum, which is usually who they live with.

As for paying for a degree, do we all expect to waste the amount we have wasted over the past ten years, and continue to provide free everything for life. Just not possible.

The other all too often fudged bit of info is in the repaying of the hex debt as they don't pay one red cent until they earn in excess of $54K per year, so what is the problem with that because most degrees that lead to jobs are close to if not over five figures.

Welfare was designed for the needy, not the greedy and most certainly not the lazy. And if parents want to have kids, their responsibilities don't end when the government hand outs end, in fact, they never end.

So we can go on looking for as many excuses as we like, but the reality is most failures start in the family home and the reality is, as a nation, having governments wasted so much, we simply cant have our cake and eat it any more. I think we have peaked and we are now coming down the other side.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 22 September 2016 6:30:32 AM
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History lesson:
I theorise, Elizabeth the 1st and her court advisors were paranoid that English Catholics would eventually murder Elizabeth, placing a Catholic on the thrown. I theorise, classroom school education was formulated to mentally stress children, building hundreds of schools throughout England, causing mentally stressed complaining children to be punished. Punishments would provide obedience to authority, fearful of punishment citizenry. A citizenry that can't think, having undergone 12 hour day lessons, 6 days a week, Greek and Latin schooling, topped off with performing Shakespearean murder/suicide/death story plays.

Journalism is so redirecting: mental stress, depression statistics; suicide statistics; unskilled work force. When media topics are occasionally brought to public attention, real topics hold media attention for short moments. Journalistic talents turn concerning topics into long drawn out sentenced conceptual bureaucratic formulated language, infusing politics, zero recommended solutions mentioned, eventually returning to everyday (soft sex value) political scandals and democratic parliament processes.

Dummying down citizenry using compulsory classroom schooling long hours of mental stress, ensuring citizenry are: divided; helpless; reliant on government; believing they have absolutely no say in anything; having such short attention spans due to watered down, rambling and/or short headline statements. The process of information is to punish curiosity and keep it stupid.

Opinionated Panel of experts: headline topics; express whose politically in charge of processes; may provide a history leading to problem issues; quote millions of dollars have been spent in an attempt to solve problem issues; collected data states problems continue to get worse in attempts to express democratic transparency. Panel opinion process turns into propaganda exercises of democratic transparency, having to explain failed to solve problems, Nauru being one example. Roll-over the same irrelevant to citizenry topics, soon most every citizen fails to care.

All foreign crisis rolled-over daily news stories, I suggest are used to wear down, redirect most busy watchers sense of caring. People are so dumb down by such irrelevant information comparisons to their own lives, school education mental stress punishments to think, based on confusing memory updates. The many problems citizenry have that are not resolved, left without being addressed.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 22 September 2016 10:04:17 AM
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School education is about punishing intelligent thought. Learners are merely repeating what is being forcefully remembered, together with mental stress traumas. Students are forcing onto themselves an ability to focus on the simplest, easiest to quickly remember selective information that aids passing assessment examinations. Assessments calculate how efficient the education rolled-over irrelevant information poor language communication learning curriculum dummying process is working.

The number of suicides statistically reported, indicates the concern citizens have in complaining why suicides are not solved and continue to increase, even though several reported studies and/or journalists programs focus attention on increased schooling.

Why Do So Many School Children Kill Themselves?
http://www.ibtimes.com/japan-school-children-suicides-after-vacation-many-young-students-kill-themselves-2059931

2014 an average of 70 people committed suicide every day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan

South Korean School Students committing Suicide.
http://www.voicesofyouth.org/fr/posts/student-suicides-in-south-korea

I strongly suggest, the media are more concerned about reporting (soft sex) equivalent: political scandals, exampling Stephen Conroy resignation speech before his party leaders had a chance to know of the pending speech.

A plebiscite on gay marriage gets a mention... gets a mention... gets a mention, in daily media stories, punishing listeners’ curios willingness to listen to news stories. Story disappears for a period, returning to punish listeners attention span once again, which I am sure wears down listeners attention spans knee-jerk reactions, who feel the issue is overly reported and/or don't like the idea of gay marriages.

News stories become all about the democratic political process, constantly reinforcing beliefs, past the point that any remaining citizenry having a sense of curios concerns, don’t bother to even care to know.

Citizenry who concern themselves with politics, I could assume, are treating politics similar to citizenry treats sports as a curiosity to what might be happening, placing their own assumed opinion into the conversation. And/or there's few better concerns to be concerned about. And/or listeners did so when they were children, are doing so as adults.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 22 September 2016 10:05:55 AM
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On September 6, 2016, ex-prime minister John Howard addressed the Canberra press club. During questions, John Howard made a significant statement. John Howard said, during the Korean War, in one year, Australia had 28% inflation.

Australia has abandoned consumer product manufacturing. Australia is no longer manufacturing consumer products needed to get citizens to work. Working class work force can't do without motor vehicles and motor vehicle fuels.

If by exampling Donald Trump were to become U.S. president. Trump has suggested he will make America great again. Trump is going to set trade agreements back several years. Trump is going to restrict immigration to allow complaining U.S. Americans, opportunities to raise wages. If aggressive Trump to Asian importation of cheap manufactured products results in raising U.S. tariffs, increasing import taxes. Asian countries may raise a verity of tariffs on Australian exports, reducing Australian exports. Australia, eventually raising tariffs on Asian imported consumers goods. Australia could end up similar to Venezuela’s high inflation, stealing citizens long years of saving accumulated wealth in cash. Venezuela’s relies on crude oil exports, having to import all other commodities.
http://time.com/4144648/these-5-facts-explain-why-venezuela-is-in-big-trouble-still/

I theorise there is an end of time economic pattern. The pattern begins with high interest rate environment economy. As interest rates decline, share markets’ share prices increase. Companies’ borrowings interest rate servicing only, a climate of reducing interest rates increases company profits, increasing share prices. As bank term depositors are saving cash, depositors conditioned familiarity with high interest rate rewards for not spending money, encourages saving. When term deposit rates decline, savers take chances, investing in investment company assurances of high returns.
http://users.cecs.anu.edu.au/~James.Popple/publications/articles/retroactive/7.shtml

Many people had their savings guided into these investment companies during the 1960s and 1970s. Many investors lost their savings, many investors committing suicide. The above attachment seems more concerned with taxes than investors’ savings. A society of badly educated, thought traumatised, financially ignorant citizens, seems to have excepted their loss of wealth as mere fate. My assertions are, investors were set-up by the rich boys club ruling class establishment.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 22 September 2016 10:08:04 AM
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