O Sung Wu, I am interested to know if the Lebanese gangs comprise
both Moslem and Christians ?
Or do they have separate gangs ?
Does the name Middle Eastern Crime Squad really mean Moslem crime squad ?

The most worrying thing about these tactical torch ads are the blatant lies they tell. Earlier today I saw one claiming police in Sheidow Park recommend carrying it. Aside from the fact that it's not something Aussie police would recommend at all, there is no police station anywhere near Sheidow Park!

Armchair Critic, "If you DO NOT admit it's a weapon, you WILL NOT incriminate yourself in a way that they can then charge you"

That is advised but is no remedy in this case. Your private vehicle is now a 'public place' by Statute in Qld. It is the law. Erring the side of caution is advised.

Thanks for you detailed response.

Has anyone else noticed that this site is fast to get to the page
but it takes forever for the text to appear ?
At the same time other sites are normal.
Right now it is back to normal, but it has been going like this for
a couple of days or so.

Hey onthebeach,

Lets say you don't say anything when police ask about a knife they just found in your car and they charge you.
Then, at court the Magistrate asks why you had the knife in the car and you say "It wasn't for self defense, Your Honour; it was for cutting up the apples I eat each day at work during my morning break" in which case the Magistrate will be peeved that police wasted his time.

Your charges will be dismissed and the prosecutors who brought the case before the court will probably get told off.

That's why it's extremely unlikely that you will get charged for it unless YOU do the hard work for them and dob yourself in by saying "It's to be used for self defense" when they question you about it, which they certainly will if they find it.

They aren't going to risk their own backsides to get you for a $200 fine if you don't give them an open and shut case yourself.

And for the record, I didn't feel too good about sharing this info publicly because it could potentially put peoples lives in danger.
I'm happy for the administrator to delete my comments on this topic, if they feel it's the right thing to do.

What torches are you looking at anyhow?
It's not the 'Shadowhawk X600' that keeps popping up in the forum ads?
It looks pretty powerful, it's always handy to have a good torch. I think I want one too.
If anyone's interested in buying one, it might help to check prices on eBay first, before rushing in as they could be cheaper there.

The Statue of Liberty has a big torch and said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. On a dark night with no car a person may only have an oil flame torch. If they hit someone with it how will they get home?