o sung wu,

There is no avoiding either the contribution of poor migrant selection to the violence. Previous State Commissioners of Police, for example, in NSW, have commented on the occasion of leaving their job and service, that there are those who have brought with them their toxic, corrupt political systems and nasty traditions, disregard for Australian law, and violence as a normal part of their life.

http://www.australian-news.net/multicultural.htm

Some years ago it became commonplace in the morning to encounter splattered blood in the once welcoming, quiet and peaceful places of Brisbane. One could only imagine how much was removed by street cleaners and building management staff before the 7.30am office commuters. Where my own workplace was concerned, from the landscaping every morning there was the collection of weapons of the criminal gang drug traffickers and the stowed and also forgotten expensive recreational drugs of the surrounding clubs' patrons.

Drug Cartels
Was anyone else shattered to hear of PM Turnbull's plan to take economic migrants from the Northern Triangle of Central America? It has been the constant fear of police here in Qld that the South American drug cartels that have been jealously eyeing the highly profitable, soft Australian scene would be able to get a foothold through migration. Along comes Turnbull to oblige them with airline tickets, State support and citizenship!

Incidentally, the 'fact checking' (sic, that is a laugh) ABC is only concerned about giving the LNP government kicks in the groin over the welfare of economic migrants.

Politicians do not listen to their own police forces. But why not?

Some of the convicts did stuff. The Rum Corps were the police.

Good evening to you ONTHEBEACH...

There's no doubt police (including myself) have been confronting individuals from certain ethnic mixes, many from The Lebanon, who've introduced gang control over many of the hitherto Asian Drug cartels operating out of Liverpool, Fairfield and Cabramatta. And now they've got total control over distribution, money laundering and protection in the Punchbowl and Bankstown areas.

And as we've seen in various media releases these ME gangs are seen to be financing activities associated with Daesh, and are instrumental with providing finance for these young and incredible stupid 'radicalized' ratbags who wish to fight for Daesh (ISIS) in Syria.

And you're right our politicians, though amply warned, seek to close the door so to speak, all too late allowing these thugs to setup and consolidate their presence, without the coppers having the power to do a damn thing about it ? As I've said often, I'm glad I've retired.

o sung wu,

Among voluntary workers arranged by churches, in community clubs and where any community-minded citizens meet, there is always a good representation of serving and retired 'engine room' police.

Maybe a few less now, because the leadership of police does not always show leadership themselves where it really counts. But that is another story and should not detract from the sterling contributions of the many, more practical types at middle and lower levels.

Anyhow, getting around to the point of it, the seasoned police I meet used to shudder at the thought of the Russian Mafia moving into Australia. Then it happened and things got more complicated forever. Fortunately, through happy circumstance (for police and public), the Russians may not have many feet on the ground yet.

For some years now the subject of Central and South American drug cartels has been a conversation stopper and for obvious reasons (think US experience).

Police must be totally exasperated and let down that this fool of a PM and his ministers are going to run the risk (certainty) of importing the trusted, apparently 'clean skin', representatives of drug cartels from Central America to set up business in Australia.

Hey onthebeach,

You know Turnbulls pulling a swifty on all Australians as far as immigration in concerned.
If you go back over the last few weeks and look carefully at the comments he's made you'll see that he clearly says that Australia's tough stance on border protection allows him to bring in more legal immigrants and give more foreign aid.

It's like a sleight of hand thing.
He proclaims "Australia is really tough of illegal immigrants" so that he can bring thousands more in legally and give our taxes away.
I challenge anyone to look for yourselves and you'll see I'm right.
I could probably dig up the links to prove it if anyone disagrees.

Anyway...
You can have a machete in your car if you say you've been cutting down cane.
You can have a kitchen knife (a big one) in your car if you say it's there to cut oranges and apples for lunch.
You can have a fishing knife in your car if you say that you use it in the course of fishing.

But with any of these knives (including a tiny pocket knife with 2 or 3 inch blade) or any knife at all for that matter YOU WILL run the risk of being charged if you say it's for self defense.

Why?

Because if you say it's for self-defense, you are admitting to police that it's purpose is a WEAPON, get it?
Then, by your own admission you could be charged for 'Possession of a Weapon in a Public Place', and if you tried to fight it in court, you'd lose.

You admitted it was a weapon, You we're carrying it in a public place, You're guilty; take him away...

Now I'd argue personally that a persons private vehicle isn't a public place.
I can't just go hop into someone else's car like its a public place, but that's the law.

If you DO NOT admit it's a weapon, you WILL NOT incriminate yourself in a way that they can then charge you.
Hope this clears it up for you.

//My point is that the torch, if carried with the intent of using it for self defence, would constitute a non lethal weapon even though it was intended to only dazzle an attacker//

Really? Incoherent visible wavelength photons are non lethal weapons? Well that's a new one.

What about car headlights? I reckon they'd have a few more lumens than a hand torch. Surely they could be used to dazzle an attacker? How can it be legal for everybody to go about with two non lethal weapons on the front of their car? Wouldn't they get defected if they removed them?