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Tactical Torch

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It seems you approve of a squirted faceful of ammonium sulphate from a solid canister but not a hand torch. What does the extinguisher salt do to a person's eyes? Will it cool his road rage? Will he grab the mongrel thing and pour the lot into muggins eyes?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 2:18:20 PM
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Hi there ONTHEBEACH...

If the Labour Party in QLD repeals those existing laws that closely regulates and hampers OMG Bikies from consorting or setting up premises for the purposes of consorting, well they deserve everything they get ? The only problem being of course, while it presents no actual personal risk for politicians, it doesn't reduce the risks in anyway, for those involved in law-enforcement. Unless the QLD Labour Government, in a brief altruistic moment, issues each police member with his own personal (small sized), easily concealable 'tactical torch', of a kind that will strike terror into the hearts and mind of a Bikie Gang's toughest, tattooed 'Master' at Arms' !

However the repealed laws, whatever guise they may take, will still need to be adequately enforced. And any additionally compliance or enforcement by definition, always exponentially increases risk, and makes the management of that risk, that much more complex, creating further complexities for police to safely and strategically to interdict those laws.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 5:32:35 PM
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//It seems you approve of a squirted faceful of ammonium sulphate from a solid canister but not a hand torch. What does the extinguisher salt do to a person's eyes?//

Pretty sure it's ammonium phosphate rather than sulphate, and it's SDS indicates it to be mostly harmless.

Still not something you want to get in your eyes, and it has the potential to cause far more harm than some visible wavelength EM radiation, which is harmless at the power levels produced by a hand torch or even a commercially available LASER.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 5:49:07 PM
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A road rage bikie throwing a plumber's wrench at a police torch is no match for a fire extinguisher truck at full revs. with extended ladder and firing focused high-pressure from the flanks.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 5:49:13 PM
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I'm sorry, I'll write that again:

Pretty sure it's ammonium phosphate rather than sulphate, and its SDS indicates it to be mostly harmless.

I hate it's/its. Gets me all the time.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 5:56:37 PM
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Tony
The chemical extinguisher has both phosphate and sulphate, the former producing ammonia: Ammonia interacts immediately upon contact with available moisture in the skin, eyes, oral cavity, respiratory tract, and particularly mucous surfaces to form the very caustic ammonium hydroxide. Ammonium hydroxide causes the necrosis of tissues through disruption of cell membrane lipids (saponification) leading to cellular destruction. As cell proteins break down, water is extracted, resulting in an inflammatory response that causes further damage , road rage and dented panels with driver fatigue.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 5:57:24 PM
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