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TRUMP WINS LATEST POLL

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Ttbn
If you think Trump is not part of the lazy self serving elite that you refer too, then you are not paying attention. The cheap Mexican labor you refer, do all the jobs most Americans won’t do such pick fruits and vegetables, clean house, and look after the sick and elderly.

Your obsession with you own skin color shows that you have not read much history regarding the white mans invasion of the rest of the world over the last 500 years. The non whites of this world used to own most of it, so it was never yours in the first place.

Hong Kong was not handed over to the Chinese, as you said. The British left because their lease run out. I grant you some of the locals were not happy about the new political reality, but if you ask most of the shop owners they were more concerned with the disruption caused by the protest.

Get used to what, do nothing wind bags complaining about having to share with others, who have the audacity to think they are equal, despite having the wrong skin tone. That has been going on for a very long time already, so I think the rest of us will just learnt to tune it out.

Loudmouth
Agreed, so what are you going to do about it. Or are you going to be just another windbag, who only knows how to identify the problem as opposed to some ideas of how to fix them.

Chris
Posted by LEFTY ONE, Friday, 9 September 2016 7:15:07 PM
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'It is time that all those who are sick of the corporate elite making all the decisions for their benefit, to do something or stop complaining about it.'
Well that's very non-leftist of you LEFTY ONE, maybe there's hope for you yet.

Firstly, I identify as Armchair Critic, and that's because I am NOT a Street-Level Activist or Purveyor of Civil Disturbances, as opinionated as I am.

Fighting globalism and overreach by elites is like being trapped in quicksand, the more you struggle the worse it is;
or like being in the jaws of some creature where the more you struggle the more you get eaten.

What are we supposed to do?
People who you're actually trying to stand up for have become so dumbed down and brainwashed they will fight you on the leftist agendas, like they crave the globalist tyranny that's soon coming to them, too stupid to see the bigger picture.

It's one thing to pose a challenge like your smarter than others but just calm down and tell us what is your plan?

I live on a farm, and understand what its like for small business btw.
Small businesses get fined if they don't report on time, while corporations pay no tax at all.

And don't even get me started with the bleeding heart immigrant stuff.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 9 September 2016 7:43:19 PM
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Armchair Critic
You see what happens when people from different political points of view actually take the time to listen to what the other is saying. I deliberately identify as a leftist to draw out people like yourself who identify as the right. I assure you that a lot of the bad stuff that is labeled as being the opinion of the left is not, but labeled as such to divide us.

I take your point regarding resistance. My philosophy is to fly under the radar. If they don’t see you as threat chances are you will not be unduly hassled.

I too am a farmer, but not in Australia. We have a few blocks that total about 22 acres in Laos. What we are in the processes of creating is an integrated system that works with nature as opposed to trying to control it. We have a small herd of cows (15) for beef, a small breeding herd of pigs (10 sows} a fish pond next to the pig sheds so the pig by product gets feed to the fish (catfish), also ducks, and chickens. Our crops are mostly feed crops, such as corn, elephant grass, sugar cane, cassava, rice, and banana. We don’t use pesticides or herbicides which destroys the general health of the soil.

Now I know what you are thinking, Australia has too many rules and the wrong weather to do what I am doing. I was simply telling you what I am doing.

I believe we need to start talking to our neighbors, and retail customers, so that our collective understanding is not filtered through the main stream media , who are not there to inform, but rather indoctrinate.

I will leave immigration for another day. However one point you may not be aware of, is what started the “troubles” in Syria. The 4 years preceding the original riots was I time of drought. The farmers left their fields and went to the city for relief. All they got was billy clubs and tear gas. As a farmer, you would understand their plight.
Chris
Posted by LEFTY ONE, Friday, 9 September 2016 8:58:39 PM
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With a nom de plume like 'Lefty One' you would, of course, spout such Marxist nonsense. When you say "you" did not own it to me, it seems that you are not a white person, either. I am not "obsessed" with my skin colour, but I certainly am not ashamed of it, as so many pathetically inadequate and self-hating Westerners are. And, I prefer my own kind to others; only fools, losers and halfwits do not - black or white.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 September 2016 10:55:17 PM
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PS I said HK was handed back, not over. Despite what you think you know, I read history a lot, whereas you don't even read plain English. By the way, I can get along with people with opposing views: I have two brothers of similar pursuasion to you, and I often agree with non-conservative posters here. But, when a twit calling himself Lefty One comes along, I don't expect to have anything in common with such a person.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:03:44 PM
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Hey LEFTY ONE,
I don't technically identify myself as being 'right' as opposed to 'left', because I don't like the gang mentality and being stereotyped.
But that said I do lean towards right conservative ideals, but this doesn't mean I'm a religious extremist or anti-abortionist or racist.
Sure I oppose immigration and multiculturalism because its being used as a tool to divide us against each other but that doesn't necessarily mean I hate foreigners.
And I'm not too fond of Islam either because its a belief system that includes religious, political and military doctrine, it's not compatible with our nation and combined with the idea that we have freedom of religion I see Islam as a threat and an issue that democracy cannot easily deal with.

Regards to Trump,
A lot of people are angered by his hard-line stance about immigration, Muslims and Mexicans etc but I'd likely be doing exactly the same thing.
Say you go to buy a $5,000 car.
Do you offer that person $4800 cash and hope to walk away with a $200 saving? which you wont because once negotiation begins the seller will counter with an offer of $4900, then maybe you settle on a deal at $4850. No.
You give that person a hard-line and semi-insulting offer first - say $2000 or $3000 (depending on how far you think insulting the person will get you) and then you negotiate, ending up settling at say $3500.

You see what I'm getting at?
You don't negotiate before the negotiation phase.

In regards to Islam especially, you want those people stressed enough to be arguing over the dinner table, because its only then that the good amongst them will stand up against the bad in their own community.

I don't support everything Trump does, but I'm not convinced he has this issue wrong even if some consider his methods controversial.
I have no problem with him returning illegal immigrants or securing his border.
You can't be a nation without these things.
They're non-negotiable.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 10 September 2016 7:52:55 AM
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