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Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 3:34:16 PM
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AC,
I think you missed a few conspiracy theories. There is also one where the Americans were behind 9/11. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 21 July 2016 9:31:03 AM
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//I think you missed a few conspiracy theories. There is also one where the Americans were behind 9/11.//
And the one where the Queen is a lizard XD. I saw in the paper that David Icke is touring Australia at the moment. I assume you have front row seats, AC. Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 21 July 2016 9:58:24 AM
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Hi AC,
Saddam's Iraq invaded Kuwait. That's an act of war by one country against another. Kuwait was fully entitled to invite whoever the hell it liked to come to its defence, incubators or not. I was hoping that the Yanks would keep going right to Baghdad, which, as an ally of Kuwait, they would have been entitled to do under the Geneva Convention. And no, I didn't support the invasion of Iraq twelve years later: the moment had passed. Although, now in 2016, I'm suspicious that Saddam actually did have SOME WMDs and moved them into Syria in the months before Bush's invasion. So strictly speaking, no, he didn't have WMDs at the time the place was invaded. As well, like bullies everywhere, and the Wizard of Oz, he bullsh!tted about his power and even about his brutality, so the jury may be still out on whether he had, or didn't have, as much as he boasted. But back to Turkey: I suspect that Erdogan and the AKP stage-managed the 'coup' as a pretext for moving even more to the Right (Yes, Poirot ! It's possible that Islamism is actually quite right-wing !), that democracy is now dead in Turkey (or unquietly resting), AND that ISIS will not launch any of its attacks in Turkey for the foreseeable future. Except against the odd day-care centre or old peoples' home, perhaps; real heroes. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:08:40 AM
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Shadow, your only response to AC's material is a bit of derision about 9/11. What a poor rebuttal, in fact no rebuttal at all.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:08:43 AM
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Loudmouth,
"...Although, now in 2016, I'm suspicious that Saddam actually did have SOME WMDs and moved them into Syria in the months before Bush's invasion. So strictly speaking, no, he didn't have WMDs at the time the place was invaded...." How about you educate yourself on the matter....the whole scenario was "cooked up" by Bush and Co yonks before the invasion. " * By mid-July 2002, eight months before the war began, President Bush had decided to invade and occupy Iraq. * Bush had decided to “justify” the war “by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD.” * Already “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.” * Many at the top of the administration did not want to seek approval from the United Nations (going “the UN route”). * Few in Washington seemed much interested in the aftermath of the war." As was further confirmed by the recently released Chilcot Report. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2005/06/09/the-secret-way-to-war/ Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 21 July 2016 11:05:23 AM
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Here's a bit of the backstory on Vietnam for Shadow Minister.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/TONKIN.html
The Shah of Iran was a US puppet ruler who was installed because of western interest's in Iranian oil.
The democratically elected leader of Iran, Muhammad Mosaddeq was overthrown by the CIA in 1953.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
Its interesting you mention it because they probably wouldn't have gone as 'Islamic' as what they did with the Iranian revolution.
- This is notable in light of the possibility that the US may have been behind the Turkish coup, and if so it's another borderline democratic country they they have now pushed towards being an Islamic dictatorship.
The Chilcot report details how the US war in Iraq was again about oil.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Chilcot-Report-UK-Oil-Interests-Were-Lead-Motive-for-Iraq-War.html
Saddam was going to move away from the Petrodollar and had begun selling in the Euro.
Take this article from 2000, he was under sanctions for supposed WMD's that never existed.
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1095057.html
Take the 'baby's in incubators' lie, false testimony to justify a war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)
Wesley Clarks testimony about planned M/E wars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
Libya was pushed by Sarkozy, Clinton and Obama to stop Ghaddafi plans for a gold based Dinar proven from her emails.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-emails-gold-dinars-and-arab-springs/5535232
I could show you tons more stuff, its all out there for anyone who looks.
The people are never given the real reasons for wars, its all based on lies, frauds and deceipt.