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Should Muslims Who Support Sharia Law In Australia Be Deported?
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Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 17 July 2016 1:41:58 PM
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Toni,
"May I ask what freedoms and liberties you've had to give up?" I didn't mention that but as you ask; the freedom to see my fellow citizens faces and not to have to share the streets with masked women (or men?) The freedom to go to a local baths and not be excluded because a group of masked women are using the public facility. The freedom to go shopping with my wife in a major shopping complex and not have racist remarks passed about me/us, in a foreign language; so far I have resisted the temptation to reply in said language. My wife objects to what I might say (and rightly so!). The Oxford is wrong then, you'll just have to put up with it Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 17 July 2016 1:58:29 PM
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Hi Folks,
Well I'm back. I've been in hospital - having suffered another fall and broken the wrist on my right hand. Anyway, back to the discussion In this country we have laws that we are all expected to abide by. These are laws that are enacted be the Parliament under the Australian Constitution. Our State is a secular State. As such it protects the freedom of all religions for worship. However there is not a separate stream of law in this country derived from religious sources that competes with or supplants Australian law in governing our civil society. The source of our law is the democratically elected legislature. There are countries that apply religious or sharia law - Saudi Arabia and iran come to mind. If a person wants to live under sharia law these are countries where they might feel more at ease. However In Australia we expect all citizens to obey our laws. They are not optional. Loyalty, democracy, tolerance,, the rule of law, are values of Australia and its people. All are expected to subscribe to this legal framework that can protect the rights and liberties of all. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 July 2016 2:08:56 PM
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//The Oxford is wrong then, you'll just have to put up with it//
Of course, your most esteemed eminence. If you say something is wrong, then it must be wrong. Silly me, I forgot you were an infallible expert on all human knowledge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 17 July 2016 2:21:51 PM
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mikk,
Even though it is staring you in the face you don't see it or wont admit it. My wanting to stop the import of muslims has nothing to do with race. It is aspects of their culture I object to. You have never seen me object to non-muslim Lebanese or other non-muslim ME people. Israelis for example. I do not have any religious beliefs. If you cannot see that aspects of muslim culture is wrong and not compatible with our society, that is your problem. But for you to simply cry 'racist' when others can see distinct problems is just pure laziness on your part. For example, do you really think it is OK for muslims to advocate punishment of homosexuals? Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 17 July 2016 3:01:13 PM
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Banjo, you are getting hysterical again.
You surely are not so ignorant as to believe that ALL Muslims are potential terrorists, or that they all want to kill homosexuals, or live under sharia law? Many people from all religions pick and choose parts of their holy book or religious way of life that they do or don't want to follow. Muslims in general are no different from this. Our country follows a freedom of religion rights, so if you don't like this multicultural, multi-religion way of life, perhaps it is you and those like you who should leave? Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 17 July 2016 3:43:33 PM
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By all logical procedures? Huh? Anyway, the Oxford is regarded by scholars as the foremost English dictionary in the world. There isn't a better one to look at. Just because it defines words differently than one antipodean nobody, it does not follow that it is in error. Have you considered the possibility it may the nobody (you) that is in error?
//But I don't believe that one group of people (existing population) should be forced to give up their freedoms and liberties//
May I ask what freedoms and liberties you've had to give up?
I'm going to have give up the freedom to have a punt on the dogs, but I don't think you can pin that one on Muslims.
Maybe we can deport Mike Baird instead?