Hi Poirot,

Butch wrote: "I have no doubt Trump is a nutter! But, people are attracted to him because he appears to be a man of action not words and is not frightened to step on someone's dick...."

He was not necessarily praising him (and calling him, quite rightly, a nutter at the same time). This is perfectly in accord with the fascist populism that we discussed yesterday:

" .... there's plenty of examples of demagogues claiming to represent 'the common man' and exploiting their misguided fears. Such demagogues can be found in many places. Gosh, there may even be some in mosques. Fascism takes many strange forms, Poirot."

Trumpf is maybe not too bright, but bright enough to present his proto-fascist populism in a way that may win him the Presidency in November. God help all of us.

These days, people are usually not naïve enough to believe some fascist in a uniform, with marching bands, candle-lit night ceremonies, etc. Fascists have to lead up to their goals more subtly.

For example, supporters of Shari'a can't just come out and say they support female subordination, the stoning of women, or genital mutilation, child marriages, death to critics of the Koran and of apostates. They have to be a bit more tekkia than that. They have to gradually prepare the ground, and break Australian Muslim women away from other Australians, in people's minds. Slow and steady wins the race, eh, Poirot ?

As I've respectfully asked many times before, "Should Shari'a or any other alien body of discriminatory 'law' be ever practised in Australia, or allowed to diminish the rights of any Australians, including Muslim women in Australia in any way ?"

And as I said then, "Keep sticking up for women's rights, Poirot, I'm right there with you."

And I still will be, always, including Muslim Australian women's rights, those of our sisters :)

Cheers,

Joe

Poirot, it wont bother me if Trump wins, in fact, it may well be time for a complete turn around, one that sees the feather duster retired and some whoop arse brought to the table.

Let's face it, the non productive blood sucking leaches in society have not really had a genuine go, so perhaps the time has come to actually make them earn their keep, or at the very least, control what they spend their tax payer gift on.

While we don't actually have a Trump here in Oz, the likes of a Morrison, Dutton, or Abbott will most certainly make headway towards ridding our nation of welfare bludgers, which of cause has its fair share of Muslims as well. In fact, I have one comes into my shop, has five kids and is a labourer.

Of cause there is nothing wrong with that, apart from the fact that those five kids are supported by the tax payers, while the lawyer/doctor with five kids gets squat. But I guess this is getting off track.

The fact is we need our country, the western world in fact, to return to grass roots and step one is to rid our nations of any religion/faith/beliefs that encourage harm to any of our fellow citizens, regardless of gender or race.

Immigrants should only ever be allowed to come here to make a better life, not take a better life from what we have worked for.

rehctub,

"Poirot, it wont bother me if Trump wins, in fact, it may well be time for a complete turn around, one that sees the feather duster retired and some whoop arse brought to the table."

It kind of makes me just want to sit back and watch the look on your face when you find it's your arse that's likely to be whooped.

Good luck with that : )

You have to be careful how you word questions. I'd prefer:

"Should Shari'a or any other alien body of discriminatory 'law' be ever practised in Australia, or allowed to diminish the rights of any Australians, including Muslim women in Australia, in any way ?"

to the current topic.

Fifty-odd years ago, here in South Australia, Premier Don Dunstan, as Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, decided that a particular settlement, where my wife was born, should be "open", meaning anybody could live and work there, and that the primary school - two miles from the all-White primary school down the road - should be closed. The Aboriginal people there were very proud of their school, by far the earliest in the area - it has the (incorrect) reputation as being the oldest continuing school building in South Australia - so they mounted a petition, asking if people wanted to send their kids to the other school, or to keep their own going.

The parents at the OTHER school countered, in a very (how to put it?) dumb-arsed way by circulating a petition asking parents if they wanted Aboriginal kids in 'their' school ?

When the Aboriginal parents at the mission got wind of this, they were understandably ropeable. The settlement's school is still open, although due to very low numbers, there is always talk of closing it. Intra-group feuds between mothers haven't helped.

You have to be careful how you ask questions.

Joe

While on the topic of the Donald, ye gads!
http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

It's official, the world is nuts.

Hi Everyone,
I came across this video about Islam last night and I think everyone should watch it.
It's the most informative video about the topic I've ever watched.

What The West Needs To Know About Islam | William J. Federer
http://youtu.be/-YpJjRzQDIM