poirot: "Answer my questions, sweetie..."

Another deflection, How many is that now?

poirot: (Do they toss out Scottish and Irish descendants these days?)

They never gave Australia a reason to, unlike moslims.

I guess if Australia denys entry to any more moslims then that would be a reason to commit more terrorist attacks in Australia. Wouldn't it? If anyone stops a moslim from getting what they want for Islam then they have declared War on Islam & have the right to Kill, Maim & Terrorize Infidels.

Koran.Ch33 v57-61).Kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammad.
Ch2 v193. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

poirot, I do believe you are infidelophobic. & you believe the above. True?

Cont:
Likewise, anyone that has any sympathies with the Islamic State (whom we are currently at war with), or who holds the view that;
* "Girls are born to stay at home", or
* It's acceptable for men to beat their wives for disobedience, or
* Female genital mutilation is acceptable, or
* People don't have religious freedom, including the freedom to change religions,

should NOT be allowed to migrate to Australia.

Second time lucky. Bastard computer.

Back to topic, folks :)

I'm uneasy with any suggestion of deporting Australian citizens anywhere, unless they have committed very serious offences against other Australians, including against Muslim women, our fellow-citizens. Australian law should always prevail. Anybody promoting, or attempting to practise, another alien body of law should face the appropriate penalties.

The dilemma, of course, is that devout Muslims are necessarily bound to abide by Shari'a (although, as with every religion and ideology, some are more devout than others): as they see it, that's an expression of their surrender to the will of their god (Islam = 'surrender').

But honor killings, child marriage, stoning of women for supposed adultery, genital mutilation, inferior legal rights, enforcement of clothing restrictions on women (it's almost always to do with restricting women, isn't it?), throwing gays from tall buildings, death for apostasy or blasphemy or for criticising the Koran, etc., etc. - none of these have any place in Australia, and we shouldn't give the slightest hint that they do, or ever will.

No, not all cultures are equal, whatever that might even mean. It's understandable that when Boas and Benedict and Mead put this idea forward, eighty and ninety years ago, they saw themselves as defending 'subject peoples' from racist imperialism, and good on them for their sympathies.

But suttee, infanticide, child sacrifice, the stoning of women suspected of adultery, the burning of witches, slavery, and so much else: all - let's be honest - give the lie to 'equality': not all cultural practices are equal.

Maybe all 'cultures' have unsavoury practices embedded within them. If so, we must always have the courage to call them out. Maybe, to re-phrase the Boasian formula, 'all cultures equally embrace practices which are invalid'.

Joe

I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya, at the way you people are attacking Hanson and Mrs Trump for plagiarism. True enough, plagiarism occurred. But, in the case of Trump we know that it was done by her (male) speech-writers and in the case of Hanson we can be fairly sure that she didn't personally put the website together. Again males were more likely to be involved.

But the arch-misogynists here like Poirot just like picking on women. What next? Attacking Hillary for misremembering what went on in Serbia or demanding that rape victims in Germany actually report the crime even though it'll implicate a (male) refugee?

I'd like to hope that Poirot attacks Trump and Hanson rather than the men because they're on the wrong political side. But that would be soooo shallow and dishonest. So the only option is to assume the attacks on these women occur due to Poirot's clear misogyny.

Jayb,

You know what you can do with your questions.

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runner,

"...What an atrocious example for the young girls growing up today."

Which girls would that be, runner?

Surely not the girls who come from Muslim families in Australia who are now having to look sideways and keep their heads down because people like you, Jayb and Hanson are running around hysterically spitting out venomous hate speech in their direction.

Wonderful stuff...grown men and women hell bent on frightening kids and their families because they're not to your preference.

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mhaze,

Oh it's all the fella's fault is it.

We can rest assured that if the boneheaded right-wing front-ladies hadn't been found out pinching other people's words and ideas, they have accepted all the glory and would be lauded far and wide on places like OLO.

Fact is, these people have trouble stringing a coherent sentence together without resorting to hate speech and fear, let alone composing their own policies or speeches.

Btw, I'm not too keen on Clinton either (no doubt due to my misogyny:)...it's come to pretty pass when you've got a narcissist lunatic on one side vying for president and a dodgy Hillary on the other!

Fancy me, a woman, being a misogynist....you learn something new every day!

Revoking citizenship,

http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/4356/can-you-ever-lose-your-australian-citizenship-stat.aspx