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Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 4:26:42 PM
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Yabby,
"Ahem, Turnbull gained more votes than anyone else, so clearly is still the most popular politician in Australia..." The problem with Mal is he was so wishy-washy....so confident in his own charisma and former reputation that he thought that would carry him through. Firstly, voters remember how they were dudded by the Abbott-Credlin govt. Here was a duo who represented their agenda as benign - and when they got in gave it to Oz voters in the neck. Credlin is still bragging that "at least Abbott won an election" - kinda easy if you're so low as to lie your way into govt. How about the ABCC trigger that was used for the DD...never mentioned again until Turnbull's tantrum on the night of the election. Where were the govt's politcies? I mean where were they? No policies except to give big business a $50 billion tax break. How about the "let's stick with this mob for a while"?...what a confident assertion - not. How about Turnbull dangling his brain farts every two days...up the GST, no more funding for public schools, a very fast train... Most of the time, these "suggestions" were gone in a puff of hot air within 24 hours - and nothing replaced them as the election approached. "I'm the man with a plan" said Mal ad nauseam - yet never divulged a plan. * Innovation * Agile * Exciting All empty words that meant nothing. Freezing the doctors rebate and rebates on pathology and x-rays assisted in the attack on Medicare. After Hockey's seeking to implement a $7 co-payment was squashed, they found another even more pervasive way to undermine the health safety net. They've only themselves to blame for people surmisng that Medicare was in their sights. Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 4:27:50 PM
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Bazz,
"He was spending time with the aboriginals long before he became a cabinet member." Yes he was.... "In August 2012, Tony Abbott did indeed go to Cape York — but it wasn’t for a week or two as Mr Pyne suggests. It was for 2 days. It was a working bee of sorts and some of Australia’s business leaders were taken along to volunteer as well. Photos of Abbott with tools in hand were taken and the myth of Abbott the saviour of the Black man had a wonderful photo op. No problem so far — until you examine the Expenditure on Entitlements paid by the Department of Finance and Deregulation to Mr Abbott for this “Volunteering” trip. On page 12, we find an amount of $9,636.36 taxpayer dollars, spent to fund the hire of a private charter flight for the 2 days." So, was this just a once off? Nope. Not on your life!" "No harm in trying, I suppose, and if you spent the week out in the community helping, it has some purpose, but little use if the status quo is maintained and you ignore the wishes of the people you supposedly assist. Well, there is some harm and it wasn’t for a week. The harm comes in the form of another private charter flight — cost to the tax payer: $32,545.00. Because nothing says I volunteer to help those in need like a $30k ride in a jet. Oh ... and that week or two Pyne talks about? That trip that cost we, the taxpayer, $32,545.00 in flights alone was for just one night!" "Next time an LNP member or journalist drops the “Abbott volunteers for weeks in Indigenous communities”....refer them to these figures. Three days and nearly $45,000 in flights alone — if that’s volunteering, the rest of us are really doing it all wrong." http://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbotts-costly-indigenous-community-volunteering,5628 Check out the article - all the transaction details are there. Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 4:49:23 PM
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*Firstly, voters remember how they were dudded by the Abbott-Credlin govt.*
Yup some do. A whole other bunch of Tony fans, egged on by Bolt and similar, went out of their way to vote against any liberal who voted to get rid of Abbott. Pauline got their vote. Perhaps Bolt should join the Pauline party. Backstabbing the liberal vote and then complaining about the results, sounds more like pure vindictiveness and now they shot the party in the foot. I remind you however, this election was about Turnbull versus Shorten, not Abbott versus Shorten. *never mentioned again until Turnbull's tantrum on the night of the election.* It certainly was mentioned, you clearly missed it. Also the fact that it was making our Govt buildings 25-30% more expensive. Why do you think the unions invested so much in this election? They want a PM who is captive to them and who owes them, so that they can do as they please, which as we know includes thuggery. *No policies except to give big business a $50 billion tax break.* You were clearly far too busy reading the critics, to bother to understand or read their policy. For the next 3 years, tax breaks would have gone to the 2 million small businesses who employ huge amounts of people and who are held back from growth by cash. Not to big business. Big business would have to wait many years before getting any break. I concede something here. Turnbull was far too honest. He should never have mentioned his long term economic plan as it goes over peoples heads, as they focus on little further than their own back pocket next week. Next they complain that they want jobs... Turnbull was generally positive in this campaign and approached it more like a business man. The critics are saying he should behave more like a seasoned politician, kicking shins and playing dirty. Personally I prefer the honest and positive ones. Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:37:31 PM
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/startups-mourn-wyatt-roy-loss/news-story/326e8a9594b4416e8e42a33d86007796
Poirot, perhaps you can read this one. This is the sort of stuff that Turnbull has been doing since the day he took office. Sadly it seems the knife went into Wyatt Roy, as he was a Turnbull supporter. Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:52:05 PM
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You clowns just can't see it can you. Turnbull & Rudd are as alike as 2 peas in a pod. Any sensible person could see it when he was playing leader of the republican movement. I find it incredible that after the Rudd experience there are any who can't pick another incompetent dill when they appear.
Yabby it will be a win if the Libs loose. Nothing is more important for the future of Oz than getting him back to his tax haven, & out of our parliament. No country can survive for long with 2 left parties, & that is what we would have had if Turnbull could have secured authority in the party. Now he is obviously a liability, the Libs will have to get rid of him or die. As I've said before, better a Labor government if you are having a left government. At least they will borrow the money to give welfare to all those their policies cause to be unemployed. The hell with it, our kids can pay. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:32:42 PM
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A few comments on various contributions here.
Paul 1409, I owe you an apology, I had you down as a DH Green.
Well I realise now that the Labour Party has sold its Poirot software
to the Greens so; cntrl C disconnect
All this obsession about Pauline Hanson. She has been elected because
all you mad trendies are not listening to what the "bloke in the pub"
has been saying for a long time. She will introduce some much needed
Non PC talk into the parliament.
You keep quoting what she said last time.
Know something she was right ! You should travel on the trains here.
Tony Abbott, from a couple of indirect contacts I have, appears to be
exactly what he projects. He is a member of the local RFS and is just
one of the boys as they say. He was spending time with the aboriginals
long before he became a cabinet member.
The upshot of it all is that it does not matter who wins the election.
We are heading for the cliff and the public has put a block under the brake.
We have reached the last moments before the Collapse of Societies.
Debt is mearly the string connected to the trigger.
No one can predict exactly when but when it does go bang you will all
be out there scrambling for job or a crust.
All mumbling "I wish I had --".