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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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runner,

"....Nothing to do with the Koran giving Muslim men that right is it? Oh that's right domestic violence is the domain of middle age white men. Just ask the Government."

Interesting point....why is it "always" only males who commit these mass shootings?
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 13 June 2016 2:32:25 PM
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Good Lord, such outrage and hysteria, Poirot will explode any minute soon. But it is the way the leftists get the booming going in their echo chamber and all of the 'Useful Idiots' frothing at the mouth with indignation.

An AR15 is no more 'automatic' than a Bic cigarette lighter. It takes a conscious decision from a human and an action each and every time the lighter is lit, or in the case of the firearm, for each and every shot that is released.

Except where the firearm is concerned there is an additional decision required, which is to identify and select the target. Nothing automatic there at all, now is there?

Worse still, terrorists don't give a hoot about the eventual fall of shot and probably hope it results in a second innocent victim as a bonus.

A number of conscious decisions and actions and all reprehensible and cowardly. Nothing automatic, except for the inevitable consequences of Islamic fundamentalism.

An AR15 is the nightmarish stuff of fevered hoplophobia imaginings and hysteria. The name is all letters and numbers. It is all metal and skeletonised. 'That' hand grip and carrying handle. So 'Hollywood Rambo'.

But the really Big Deal and why it is so 'Assault', 'high powered' and scary is the cheap black finish. Utilitarian is scary.

However the elephant in the room is the social problems, the unforeseen negative consequences of the social engineering of the leftists who call themselves 'Progressives'. No way they will ever admit that they got it so wrong. Another day, same mistakes.

The silver-tongued Obama lept at 'gun control' as the way to deflect criticism and divide and conquer. That clever spin was offered to him by master politician, Dubya Bush's "Little Deputy", John Howard. The faux Left used to rail against both.

Back to that elephant-sized lump of social problems being swept under the carpet by Obama. Different now to when he was seeking the highest office in the land, eh? Clinton is another moral BS artist.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 13 June 2016 2:38:15 PM
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So Poirot, what is your point.

Is it that because the Republicans gave this Islamic extremist easy access to weapons, that this act of Islamic extremist was not his fault?

A man is responsible for his actions. If the gun laws had been tighter, he would have had a smaller gun and killed less people, but remember that Monis in Aus committed terrorism with guns obtained in Aus under tough gun laws.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 2:46:32 PM
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Trump has made combating the threat of groups such
as Islamic State a central part of his candidacy
for US Presidency so of course he's going to milk
this incident for all it's worth.

Whether it gives Trump the boost he's after in this
race - we'll have to wait and see.
It probably will - at least for some.

US officials according to Reuters reported on Sunday,
June 12th 2016, that they had no immediate evidence
directly linking the militant group to the massacre.

We've been told that the shooter, US born, Florida
resident, Omar Mateen, was killed by police.

Mateen, 29, called 911 on Sunday morning and made comments
saying he supported the Islamic State militant group,
officials said. However the matter is still under
investigation and both Hillary Clinton, and President
Obama are being cautious in their reactions and comments
because the matter is still under investigation.

Donald Trump will continue to play the effective
"fear card," in the
hope that it will boost his chances for the Presidency.
Whether he succeeds in this, only time will tell. I would
not bet against his chances of winning. He's a good salesman,
and says what many Americans want to hear.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 13 June 2016 2:54:11 PM
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Foxy,

For once I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 3:02:28 PM
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The shooter had been under investigation by the FBI. Guys like this fall off the radar when their beliefs alone should be enough to quarantine them from society.

If a "war" on terror exists, he should have been interned, yes, just for his beliefs. That's what happens in war, enemy sympathizers on home soil are interned until the end of hostilities.

To protect normal citizens it's either internment or allow paramilitary groups to do the dirty work, as under the English in Northern Ireland.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 13 June 2016 3:32:34 PM
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