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Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 22 May 2016 2:39:41 PM
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Oh dear Is Mise, I even quoted the Godfather of the Shooters and Hooters Party John Tingle,the old bloke is still kicking as far as i know. Why don't you give Tingle a tingle and ask him yourself.
Why bring Port Arthur into the discussion? It may be uncomfortable, but relevant. Why did the American NRA recently highlight the laws that were introduced by John Howard because of Port Arthur as being bad laws. Beach, there is a difference between the purpose gun are made for, and what purpose petrol is made for. I'll leave it for you to work that out. Pious clap trap. "mere words cannot express the revulsion that I and so many feel when the Port Arthur victims, their families and friends are being used for political purposes" The rabid right don't mind use the deaths of 1200 asylum seekers at sea for political purposes, Is that not correct Beach. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 May 2016 9:14:16 PM
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Paul,
Do tell us which make of guns that Bryant used, you might also tell us what the make was of his motor vehicle as you blame the salesman who sold it to him, after all the guns, the petrol and the car were all part of his equipment; you might also add the brand of matches that he used for good measure. Perhaps you have found a reference to the type of firearms that Bryant used and are going all coy on us. There is an interesting link on Google that says that Bryant wss left handed and that the shooter was right handed, care to comment? Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 May 2016 9:25:25 PM
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Its been a few years since I watched these Martin Bryant videos but I think everyone should watch them if they have time.
The quality's not that great however. http://youtu.be/UdYxtultxZU http://youtu.be/pJeQ3PgBe4U Paul, Its stupid to try to blame the person who sold the gun, and its not the manufacturers fault either. I remember pre - 'Martin Bryant' Australia. Anyone could buy a shotgun and ammo straight from any sports store. Lets not make something out of nothing. We've got more serious problems facing the planet right now anyway. The left have a new superhero. Anyone heard of Trigglypuff? Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 May 2016 10:11:49 PM
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Paul1405,
I meant what I said, that mere words cannot express the revulsion that I and so many other Australians feel when the Port Arthur victims, their families and friends are being used for political purposes by the Greens and others. That the Greens also seek to diminish the multiple murderer's responsibility to score political points is also horrendous, hypocrisy too. It grates on the Tasmanian public that a Royal Commission was never held, with the possibility of any inquiry being shafted by John Howard with gutless politicians going along with that. That left the media to speculate on what lay behind the murders and grubby politicians to continually replay Port Arthur and use the victims and their families for political gain, delivering to the convict the lasting notoriety he sought. That encourages other spree killers seeking to same publicity. Ex-PM John Howard, yet another politician with a monumental ego that has to be constantly fed and who obviously misses the public attention of politics, continually renews Port Arthur in the minds of the affected family and friends and the Tasmanian population especially. How is that for the PM who blocked a Royal Commission because he was worried about causing unnecessary further suffering? Must be different when he struts the world stage and gets feted by Obama's State Department to talk about it. There should have been a Royal Commission. Now the tabloid media and grubby, unethical attention-seeking politicians like the 'Watermelon' Greens Trots are forever causing speculation for their secondary gain. Disgusting. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 23 May 2016 2:53:35 AM
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Recently a 20 year memorial was held at Port Arthur. John Howard was an honored guest. What was a positive outcome from that terrible crime was it gave the impetus to politicians to take affirmative action on gun control. Which stopped us from going down the American path, the vast majority of Australians supported John Howard's action.
Over the intervening 20 years the 'gun lobby' has done its best to truncate and weaken those strong State and Federal laws. The Shooters Party continues to blackmail the NSW government with threats of withdrawing its 2 member, balance of power, support in the Legislative Council if the government does not meet its demands on softening gun laws in that state. The 'gun lobby' has many skeletons in the cupboard, Port Arthur is just one. These inconvenient truths they would prefer society not to remember. Is Mise I told you, use "Google". Its easy to operate, even for you. And heroin dealers are not responsible for the end result of the product they profit from. Right Beach! Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 23 May 2016 8:00:13 AM
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While you are at it Paul1405, you might also wish to give some prominence to the brand of the petrol he used for his arson, in order that you can shift some blame onto the importers of that as well.
Why those highly secretive 'gun control' political lobbyists (and NSW 'Watermelon Greens) would ever want to diminish in any way the responsibility of that disgusting mongrel Martin Bryant for his spree kills? Take a guess, political point-scoring.
Therein lies the crass stupidity of Greens and other lazy politicians in jumping on the simplistic 'gun control' bandwagon, instead of doing their job and teasing out and treating the underlying, more complex problem of violence.
While on the subject, mere words cannot express the revulsion that I and so many feel when the Port Arthur victims, their families and friends are being used for political purposes and headlines by cynical political animals like the 'Watermelon' Greens.
And by sly, secretive, political lobbyists who for years have hidden behind assumed grand titles, while categorically refusing to provide even the most basic identifying details on themselves and their sponsors.