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George Soros in the News

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But even so, 'gun control's' mantra, "....All guns, legal and illegal, start out being legally manufactured" is specious.

Deceitful. Deceptive. False. Flakey. That is the 'Watermelon' Greens all over. All care and no responsibility. In fact, very little responsibility taken either. Just mud slingers who if elected, very quickly lose any pretensions of environmental concern. Very thin environmental green camo on the outside and all red the rest of the way through.

The lazy, seat-polishing Greens are the 'Useful Idiots' of the wealthy, highly secretive overseas interests behind the leftist push for 'gun control' in the Western democracies. The same overseas interests who dabble in the domestic politics of Australia and for what end?

All thinking people, the reputable citizens who have been qualified for firearms licences most of all, believe that effective REGULATION of the PERSONS who can possess firearms is necessary. The strongest, most robust control is the licence. The rest is expensive, wasteful, window dressing that wastes police resources.

'Gun control' is about something else entirely. It is about bans and confiscations from ordinary honest, licensed, citizens and the all-powerful totalitarian State having sole possession and use of weapons to control the population.

Many migrants have endured governments/States like that, where there are no rights, everything is a privilege and citizens must first obtain permission from the State. North Korea could be an example.

Paul1405 is already well on the way there, saying that if he doesn't like what you do, you should be controlled. You should be subject to a ban or a confiscation.

However it is none of Paul1405's business whatsoever what any other citizen does as long as s/he is acting within the law. Of course what Greens might be doing in their own time would cover a very broad (and grey) range, but never you mind they'd say.

Greens, "Just do as we say, not as we do".
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 5:33:42 PM
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Are you two going to claim that the guns used by Martin Bryant, Ian Turnbull and now Omar Mateen were illegal. Is Mise nothing like a bit of history. Maybe just to satisfy your pedanticism I should have said the vast majority of guns start out being manufactured legally. I stand corrected.

Beach, you favor a police state, want to form a wacko armed citizen militia, Kim Jong-un would be proud of you.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 6:29:11 PM
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Paul1405,

It is only necessary to take the first mentioned which is Bryant to disprove your idiotic assertion.

Bryant did NOT have a firearms licence so yes of course his possession of any firearm was illegal.

Just to go a little further to show the idiocy of your position, Bryant didn't have a car licence either, but the cars that were necessary for the commission of his crimes were driven by him, one stolen.

But don't you think that the most serious crimes were his murders and maiming of innocent people? A PERSON did that, Bryant. You and the 'Watermelon' Greens are just trying to diminish his callous responsibility for planning and carrying out his horrendous crimes.

What the Greens and those wealthy overseas interests behind 'gun control' fail to understand is that breaking laws is part of the modus operandi of offenders. Offenders don't care how much duplication there is in laws and what does any of that matter to them anyhow where they are resolved to commit the most serious of crimes, to take human lives.

Here is one for you: all knives start legal so blame the knife for the commission of ISIL's disgusting stabbing murders of a policeman and his wife. Thank God their wee boy was saved by brave police, today,

Islamic State terrorist murders police officer in Paris
Police officer and wife killed in knife attack

A policeman and his wife were killed in a frenzied knife attack at their home in a Paris suburb on Monday night by a man who reportedly shouted “Allahu Akhbar”.

The man had been sentenced in 2013 for taking part in a jihadist organisation with links to Pakistan, press agency AFP reported on Tuesday."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/paris-hostage-situation-after-man-kills-policeman/
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 7:38:49 PM
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Beach. you simply try to deflect any blame from those that control the supply and distribution of firearms. Yes, Bryant was using legally manufactured guns, Ian Turnbull even had a State sanctioned licence for the firearm he used to commit murder, as did Mateen in the US.
Was John Howard wrong for moving against guns in the community in the way that he did? I don't think so!
There are those like you, that hide behind the respectability of so called "good citizens should have guns" notion, when all you want is the power to control a private military style citizens militia. You called it community gun clubs or whatever, but it would be more of a private army, than a gun club, would it not?

I assume by your silence you support the nutter gun policy of One Nation. Not having said a word against it. But you have not been critical of the NSW Greens Firearms policy either, a bit to logical for argument I suspect.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 9:23:51 PM
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You do yourself no favours diminishing the responsibility of fiends for their brutal crimes by trying to sheet some of the blame elsewhere.

That evil "Allahu Akhbar" shouting fiend who murdered the policeman and his wife in Paris is directly and solely responsible for their deaths, not the maker of the knife.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 10:28:49 PM
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Paul,

You haven't commented on the Greens leader sticking up for the shooting sports; don't you agree with Di Natoli?

I must apologize for any perceived tardiness in making replies as I'm suffering a Telstra 'outage' at the moment, have been off the land line 'phone and consequently, the home computer for the last ten days; am on a promise of restoration by the 17th, not holding the breath!!

Can't find out the reason why, but the Shire Council started digging up the road about ten days ago.....??
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 10:58:57 AM
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