Is Mise, I hope you get over that bout of Telstraitis quickly, although it is known to persists, sometimes the only remedy is a complete break from "THEM", but I suppose they are they only providers in your location.
There is no truth to the rumor that it was The Greens digging up your internet cable, and not the local council, we are believers in free speech, even for you and Beach.

Beach, I do not put knife manufactures in the same category as gun makers. Guns are made to kill, knives have other intended purposes.

How about a comment on One Nation's firearms policy.
How about a comment on John Howard.
How about trying to discredit Greens Firearms Policy.

The evidence is clear, more guns in the community, more deaths from firearms. The American lesson teaches us that, you are not that stupid! I give you credit for some intelligence.

Even a fool would come to the realisation that very, very few firearms in civilian hands are weapons. It is the usage dictated by the offender, his/her thinking, motivation and purpose, the USE, that makes inanimate objects into weapons.

That applies from fists through to edged and other weapons, including poisons, for instance.

Even a fool would come to the realisation that an offender who sets out to commit the most horrendous, serious crime imaginable, to murder, cares naught about other laws. Nor does he especially care about the method and a bomb is even more effective. The horror is in the casualness and apparent randomness of the murder. Dead is dead, irrespective of the method.

But the killer can perceive certain methods as being more attractive to editors, political interests and others who should know better who want to increase their audience and in some cases their own celebrity, by sensationalising rather than simply reporting the crimes.

In Australia it is rather obvious who makes political hay out of such dreadful events.

Regrettably, the ambulance-chasing 'NSW 'Watermelon' Greens can be relied upon to sensationalise and score headlines while piggy-backing on the still-warm corpses and the bereaved families and friends.

That is usual for the headline hunting Greens, whose leader once infamously claimed that mining was responsible for the Queensland floods. Bob Brown said that from a safe and comfy office while Queenslanders, myself being one of them, were trying to find people lost in the raging floods.

Many Queenslanders are still recovering financially and emotionally from those floods. For some, the sad losses will never go away. But the headline hunting Greens are long gone, to chase ambulances elsewhere.

The ruthless Greens don't give a hoot that they could be responsible for encouraging copy cat killers and suicides. The Greens need an ethics and principles graft. Along with a responsibility graft. Especially when they are in election mode as they are at present. They are nothing like the original green movement at all. Human headline 'Trots' with social agendas instead of tree lovers.

Once again Beach you are all over the shop. Regularly losing the plot as you tend to do. now its Queensland floods. You would rather dodge the questions than answer honestly. As a One Nation supporter do you agree with their firearms policy or not. After all you will be voting for that and their other ratbag policies very soon.

You claim that guns are just incidental to killings and it would all happen anyway. Take the case of the 9 year old who shot the gun instructor in the US. These nutters give guns to 5 year old's. Are you say the young girl would have killed the instructor with a knife or a bomb if she couldn't get her hands on a gun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvRNo3oP-S0

Here are lunatics with guns! These are not criminals but people Beach would describe as "good citizens". Beach do you support these lunatics. This is what would be going on in Australian backyards if the gun lobby had its way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AFw74gPbvE

More accidental shootings;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RyXpZueVkc

Paul,

".... Guns are made to kill, knives have other intended purposes....The evidence is clear, more guns in the community, more deaths from firearms."

All guns are not made to kill, nor are all guns capable of killing.
Many thousands of guns are made for target shooting and others are made to fire blanks only and are not able to discharge live ammunition.
Others, of extremely low power, are made for indoor shooting such as the Zimmerstutzen rifles and many air pistols etc.
So it is a general lie by the antis that all guns are made to kill.

AS for more guns in a community more deaths from firearms, this is another lie.
Only recently the Greens were moaning about the fact that there are now more guns in the Australian community than before Port Arthur; where is the commensurate rise in gun deaths?

As I've said before, a few references on your part to back up your statements would be appreciated; it would also help if you thought before hitting 'Post'.

Is Mise,

I will concede that any gun incapable of killing people you can keep, cap guns, pop guns, water pistols, those ridiculous paint ball guns, silicon sealant guns etc. The rest go in the crusher!

Paul1405,

So now you are proposing to remove the sections of the regulations and the Police discretion regarding imitation firearms?

For someone who is forever going on about 'tightening' firearms regulations (you don't even get the title anywhere near right), you continue to make a complete ass of yourself with your complete ignorance of the regulations and why some of the conditions exist.

You have also finally admitted what you have denied for scores of posts, that you and the 'Watermelon' Greens are actually out to ban all private LEGAL ownership of firearms.

Like that highly secretive foreign sponsored 'gun control' crew, you and the 'Watermelon' Greens just want to deny law-abiding citizens their rights and confiscate their legal property.

But you and the Greens DO support criminals rights. And the Greens and Labor totally oppose and are withdrawing Qld's successful Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Act 2013:
"..2 [VLAD]Objects
(1) The objects of the Act are to—
(a) disestablish associations that encourage, foster or
support persons who commit serious offences; and

(b) increase public safety and security by the
disestablishment of the associations; and

(c) deny to persons who commit serious offences the
assistance and support gained from association with
other persons who participate in the affairs of the
associations.

(2) The objects are to be achieved by—
(a) imposing significant terms of imprisonment for vicious
lawless associates who commit declared offences; and

(b) removing the possibility of parole for vicious lawless
associates serving terms of imprisonment except in
limited circumstances; and

(c) encouraging vicious lawless associates to cooperate
with law enforcement agencies in the investigation and
prosecution of serious criminal activity"

http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/V/VicLawAssocDA13.pdf

Why would the Greens be determined to destroy legislation that works, passed High Court appeals and is supported by the public?