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George Soros in the News

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I think I'm going to use up all my 4 daily posts in one hit, at this rate.

- About Guns in the US -
Not I'm not an expert but this is how I see the whole argument.

Firstly America is a democratic republic and they have a slightly different system than we do.
The Bill of Rights contains laws that are rights bestowed on the citizens set in stone that can't be easily changed.

The right to keep and bear arms and to maintain a militia was not just a right to go hunting or shoot your neighbour during an 'over the back fence' dispute, or rob people on the street when you were broke.

It was written after the War of Independence (I believe), and provides the ultimate checks and balances on government.

Basically the right to keep and bear arms is also kind of like a duty of the citizens to overthrow a tyrannical government.

Take a read of these Freedom Quotes below, for example:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK

http://freedomlawschool.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/freedom-quotes/

In the US the situation really has gotten out of hand.
Their tyrannical government now seeks to take their guns.
This is why the US gun debate is not a simple issue.

Guns are a tricky issue to get right.
There are legitimate uses for them such as on farms etc.
Right now where I live on a farm, the council has passed laws to protect koalas and has forced people to place their dogs in enclosures.
The dogs are no longer able to scare away predators and livestock is now more at risk meaning there's a greater need for guns when they are needed to put down injured livestock.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 May 2016 8:34:46 AM
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Aiden,
Quote>>Armchair,
"Just remember that 'sustainability' also means 'global depopulation'"
No it does not. Though sustainability would be easier with a lower global population, it's not a requirement. Nor would global depopulation automatically result in sustainability.<<

Sustainability may not necessarily mean global depopulation to you and me or other rational thinking people, but it does to the elite.
I know you're intelligent but I cant yet understand why you're so naive.
http://youtu.be/Gc16H3uHKOA

Open border policies combined with 'leftist' destruction of personal and national identity.
I could suggest that what we see occurring in the world is Cloward and Piven on a global scale.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 May 2016 9:29:24 AM
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Paul,

"Do you dispute what I said about Mr Malcolm David Fuller, who was the NSW secretary and “registered officer” of the national Shooters’ Party, he was also managing director of Australia’s largest gun importer, which brought in a large quantity of Chinese SKS assault rifles, one of the two types of weapon used by the Tasmanian mass murderer Martin Bryant."

Can you give a reference to this?

I can find nothing on the public record ref. your allegations about Malcolm Fuller.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 May 2016 9:58:49 AM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

I appreciate your kind words and your posts.
You are intellectually honest and you use data and
honest arguments to support your perspectives.
You are an excellent addition to this Forum.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 22 May 2016 10:44:00 AM
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Is Mise, you are going to have to drop kick that search engine of yours 'Shootemup', and get something a bit more reliable, I suggest Google. Then the facts will be plain, even for you to see. Mr Fuller is now a director of Highland Outdoors Ltd, gun merchants, and been a gun merchant for many years.

The words of Mr John Tingle founder of The Shooters Party. "I do not know the details of the party’s finances, I am not embarrassed by the sources of its funding, nor by the possibility that Mr Fuller had sold the gun used in the Tasmanian massacre."
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 May 2016 11:28:12 AM
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Paul,

I've tried Google but still can't find where Fuller sold the rifle that Bryant used, perhaps you would be kind enough to point me in the right direction.
I do know that Malcolm has been in the sporting arms trade for many years, that's not in dispute as I've delt with him myself.
Why is there no criticism of the Government which encouraged the importation of Chinese rifles and,in fact,gave Malcolm Fuller permission to import all of the firearms that he has ever imported?

Why bring Port Arthur into the discussion?
Can you tell us what arms Bryant used.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 22 May 2016 12:48:44 PM
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