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Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 9 May 2016 2:57:41 PM
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The range at Malabar was originally granted in perpetuity, but some twenty years ago the greedies got their eyes on it and the Government decided to cancel the lease; the upshot was that the Court decided that "perpetuity" didn't mean what everyone thought that it meant ie, forever.
Now some development of a different kind can take place and hopefully the land will remain largely open space for a long, long time. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 9 May 2016 4:25:52 PM
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Trust the Greens not to be able to figure statistics.
Eight suicides on ranges over about fifteen years proves the exact opposite of what shyte stirring Greens 'Protest' Party imagine. In a population of 23 million, going on 100 million if the 'Open Doors to People Smugglers' Greens have their way, 8 is an insignificant number and proves that the firearm is NOT the preferred choice of persons contemplating suicide and that ranges are tightly controlled. Paul1405 quoted the wife of a sufferer of terminal cancer who took his own life. First, it is almost impossible to prevent a determined patient in that circumstance from doing what he did. Secondly, there was no evidence at all to say he was suffering from a mental illness as stated by Paul1405. Finally, for the Greens who are forever promoting euthanasia it is hypocrisy for them to say that this terminal patient committed a crime to blame the firing range. -Which is what they are saying if fault is to be (wrongly) attributed to the range. From the report, <In May 2013, Mr Molnar was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given months to live. He decided against chemotherapy, a decision his wife reluctantly supported. "He said, 'I'd rather shoot myself in the head than go through those treatments'," she said. "And to that I laughed and he laughed too. We both laughed because he didn't like guns."> http://tinyurl.com/z7hsyk2 Many would say instead that the fellow was selfish to embarrass the range administrators and the 'guns' he hated. Just as anyone who leaps in the front of a train selfishly causes psychological trauma to the driver and those who deal with the aftermath. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 9 May 2016 5:14:18 PM
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'evening to you ONTHEBEACH...
If a potential suicide patient puts their mind to it, they'll always find a way to harm themselves, whatever measures are taken to prevent them from accomplishing their desired objective. 'Deaths in custody' are such a point in reference. Long Bay had a special section called the 'OBS', therein they had half a dozen cells dedicated to prevent a prisoner from hurting themselves. The cells had padding on the walls and floors, and no extendable or proud surfaces to which a prisoner might fasten something to, everything was flush, to defeat a prisoner intent on hurting themselves. Even then, some still managed to do the deed, so to speak, with all the best intentions in the world? Humans are such a resilient lot when they place their minds to something! Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 9 May 2016 8:55:44 PM
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Is Mise, I am community, and I am concerned!
Being a reasonable person, as you know, and giving due consideration to the fact the headland has been used as a rifle range for sometime now. I am "pleased" that at least the area will remain open space, even if bullets are whizzing by at the same time. I would have preferred if it had become passive use, but I'll accept the rifle range as the second best option, even if it only serves 2% of the population, but keeps the ever hungry developers out. I am even more pleased at the return of the pony club to the headland. The whole ecology of the area has been under threat from successive state governments of both persuasions for sometime, as they eye off the juicy cash plum that is Malabar. It started with the disgraceful development that took place on the old Prince Henry Hospital site, even before that was the Malabar sewerage treatment works, continued with the headland and is now focusing on the old Long Bay Jail site. o sung wu. we spoke once before about Long Bay Jail, the latest to come out of Macquarie Street, only this week from an unnamed source. The closure of 'The Bay' allowing for development, with a new 5,000 inmate mega prison centered on of all places Picton. The good Liberal voters of Wollondilly Shire, who incidentally are big on law and order, with their lock em' up, throw away the key mentality, were quickly up in arms! Yes, we want more prisons but not in our back yard. The proposal went down like a lead balloon. I'm sure that was only the opening salvo, more is to come. Beach, what an insensitive comment; "8 (deaths) is an insignificant number" not to the loved ones who lost those close to them in the most horrific and tragic of circumstances. Typical of a extreme right winger who has no sensitivity for people. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 5:42:19 AM
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Paul,
"Is Mise, I am community, and I am concerned!" You ain't a community" you is a "one" What a copout!! I share your concerns about the Long Bay site,if the prison must go then the land should become open space' The place for a new prison ts about 200 miles northwest of Bourke. Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 8:17:53 AM
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Today, the NSW Police still conduct training out there for some of their specialised F/A training. Recruits still undertake their initial F/A training at the Academy at Goulburn, but many others still take advantage of the giant ANZAC Range, for other S/A's weapons training.
The fact that many of the big bore civilian Rifle clubs will now have a permanent home for their shooting competitions for at least the next fifty years is excellent in my opinion. I started my big bore competitions, with the Hurstville VDC Rifle Club in 1957, at the now defunct mammoth ANZAC Range,Liverpool (now closed for housing) using a relatively unknown rifle called the SMLE, .303 with a heavy barrel and aperture 'Central Sights'.
Again ONTHEBEACH was perfectly correct when he opined in an earlier article, many of the Rifle Club shooters, later joined the Army at the outbreak of WWII, and were among the Army's top precision shooters.
The fact ANZAC Rifle Range's future has now been assured, for at least the next fifty years, is most laudable. Both for the noble sport of Civilian big bore competitions, with 'The Queen's Prize' as the ultimate objective. Together with the availability and physical presence of a full size, 900metre rifle Range for the Australian Army, to conduct regular small arms training so close to the nation's largest city.
Accordingly, it's for this reason I thoroughly endorse everything my knowledgeable colleague, IS MISE has stated herein, concerning the efforts of Senator David LEYONHJELM. To ensure the existence of the ANZAC Rifle Range, at Malabar NSW, is preserved at it's present site for a period of at least fifty years.