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Manus Island, Illegal.

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Don't give me that guff JayB. Your pathological dislike for these people comes across loud and clear. You are an advocate of state sanctioned murder. Prior to that you gloated at the deaths of innocent people at sea. "Why not. It (drowning at sea) got rid of some of them permanently, mostly Jihadi aged men" more of your tongue in cheek, I think not, that is how you think.

Bazz, yeah Hitler was a socialists, the fuhrer is defiantly a pin boy of you of the rabid right, you post a whole lot of crap and then feel insulted if someone compares your thinking to that of Hitlers, you can't have it both ways.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:07:04 PM
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Hey Paul1405,
I honestly hadn't thought about responses at the time I wrote and posted it..
I don't really care if others respond or not, more often than not people don't respond to my comments, but I don't mind, I don't form my opinions based on a need to please others anyway.

Did I take one of Hitlers speeches? No, should I?
And as for the rest of it you're also entitled to your opinion.

I'm genuinely sorry if the way I present my comments bothers you in some way.
Although I do not mean to offend you or anyone else I'm not going to change the way I think or present my ideas just because I'm scared that others might take some offense.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 28 April 2016 11:26:03 PM
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Rubbish Armchair Critic, it is quite obvious in most of your posts that you aim to irritate others and/or cause offence. You just can't help yourself.

Many of the responses on this topic are typical responses to anything that involves Muslim/dark-skinned people. They couldn't care less that so many drowned when trying to reach Australia by boat at all. They are just keen to keep all these dark-skinned, non-Christian foreigners out of Australia full stop.
So stop pretending otherwise...

If any of these people on Manus Island or Nauru are proved to be refugees then they should be allowed to settle here in Australia. We are not living in isolation in this world and need to accept our responsibilities like good world citizens.

If we send back non-refugees to where they came from, that action and the fear of drowning, should be enough to deter other boats from coming here.
At least we will have tried to help some of them, rather than locking them up on some barely civilised Island prisons for years without trial.
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 29 April 2016 1:52:33 AM
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Paul,

I guess that would make Stalin (Rhiannon's idol) the greens uncomfortable favourite son, and Stalin would make Hitler look like a boy scout.

The truth is that Hitler and Stalin were both socialists and the Greens are far closer to both of them than the conservatives, as the greens and labor tried to kill nearly as many afghan refugees as did the Taliban.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 29 April 2016 5:17:44 AM
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Archair, your "scenario" as you called it was nothing more than a thinly veiled rant which expressed your feelings towards these people. I fully understand that given the ever growing number of millions of displaced people in the world, and the disparity that exists, that you and others like you, feel threatened, and genuinely fear that your idyllic life in the paradise of Australia, could quite easily come crashing down around your ears. You are absolutely right on that score, it could easy come crashing down!
The political reaction so far to appease the majority, and you are in the majority, has been to create a 'Fortress Australia' and lock out the relatively small number of would-be blow ins. Forget the humanitarian aspects for a moment, and the minor irritation of boats sinking, and a count in PNG etc, the policy so far has been successful. Abbott took great pride in blowing his trumpet "I've stopped the boats" and so he had. What I question is, if the numbers increase, and they surly will, given the state of the world, what is the long term solution? Sinking boats, islands, pandering to dirt poor third world countries. I think not, a far more realistic, and more difficultlong term approach is needed to attack the root causes of the problem, rather than applying the good old short term band aid solution.

Got any ideas on a long term solution?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 29 April 2016 6:30:36 AM
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Shadow, I think they were a couple of despotic tyrants responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children. I would not liken any mainstream politician in Australia, even the most detestable, to either Hitler or Stalin.
As the thoughts of both have been well documented, and given what some post on this forum, its not unreasonable to draw parallels between the two.

I ask you again, what is your opinion of the views of JayB. you try and label me a retard, yet offer no opinion on the "tongue in cheek" posters call for state sanctioned murder. If Hitler was alive today I'm sure he would be in full agreement, what about you? Or will you shirk the question when its uncomfortable as you normally do.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 29 April 2016 7:07:13 AM
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