Yabby,

"Haha Poirot, you are clearly unable to differentiate your deep hatred of MT, from what is good business practise! Peeing other peoples money up against the wall and calling it sensible Govt policy, without too much questioning of how it is actually spent, might flow deeply in your leftie veins, but it is in fact foolishness indeed! The devil is of course always in the details."

Lol!....peeing windfalls up against a wall is an LNP specialty - a la Costello the Great.

What is good business practice, Yabs?

Nobbling innovative ventures and world renowned scientific institutions is good business practice?

Who spends so much on technology that is already outdated?

""But look, the biggest infrastructure projects in this country's history were built with the future in mind.

"The Snowy Mountains Scheme was built to last hundreds of years, the Sydney Harbour Bridge was built with eight lanes, not two.

"But now, as we enter Malcolm Turnbull's 'age of innovation' and we're told the NBN is the most important infrastructure project of the 21st century, we're expected to rely on a decaying copper network that experts say is already past its use-by date, instead of investing in fibre which the same experts say could service our internet needs for the next 100 years."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/malcolm-turnbull-you-didnt-invent-the-internet-waleed-aly-slams-pms-nbn-hypocrisy-20160406-go02xz.html

Mal's idea for improving education is to federally fund private schools, but not public ones.

Great!

Not to mention the LNP penchant of late to destroy TAFE and replace it with private training companies which go bust at a rate of one per week.

The LNP are destoyers of innovation and education opportunities...but good for business, eh?

Guffaw!

Yabby, FTTN is a terrible false economy. It uses more energy, has much higher maintenance costs (and is less reliable) and will eventually have to be replaced with FTTP anyway. It's better to do it right the first time.

At a time when the official interest rate was 3%, the report that said FTTN was good value for money had to use a 7% rate in its calculations to reach that conclusion. Now the official interest rate has fallen to 2%, and the cost of delivering FTTP has also fallen, there is no technical excuse to waste money on FTTN. Bill Morrow's claim that "All evidence suggests what we're doing today is the right way" proves his incompetence. He should resign.

*The Snowy Mountains Scheme was built to last hundreds of years, the Sydney Harbour Bridge was built with eight lanes, not two.*

Which shows how little you and Aly understand, comparing apples and carrots. Adding extra lanes to the SHB would have clearly been uneconomic, so they have since built a tunnel. The Libs are focussing on rolling out the cables. The NBN already owns the copper wires, as they had little choice but to buy them back from Telstra, in order to gain access to the ducts. The bit of cable up your road can be done later, there is no rush. What matters is getting more mobile towers up to cover more of Australia, getting satelites installed and running etc, all that is going ahead. Poor Aly, having to wait 5 minutes for his movie. Boo hoo. What has actually limited the roll out is a lack of qualified people. Contractors just could not find them.

Our education system involves far more than Tafe. Waste occurs everywhere unless somebody gets serious about cutting costs. Anyone working in Govt or even large companies, where shareholder money is often pissed up against walls, would accept that. At least in business, heads can roll. Not so in the public service, it is nearly impossible to fire them for waste, so they spend any amount given.Only by cutting their budgets, are they forced to learn to prioritise and cut waste.

Yabby,

".... The bit of cable up your road can be done later, there is no rush..."

Which well sums up the methodology of right-wingers when it comes to "innovation".

So much for the infrastructure of the 21st century.

Sorry mate, but, as with climate science, I take my information from people who actually know what they're talking about - ask the experts and they'll all shake their heads at Turnbull's mash-up.

As for the imminent destruction of TAFE - and the rise of private training colleges. It's the old story, Conservative govts run down services and sell off opportunities to their mates. The "mates" in this case couldn't run a tea shop - and are continuously failing - leaving students in the lurch having paid for a service they can no longer access.

Typical:

"VET: An industry in crisis is an investor's worst bet"

""I found it astounding, really. It's a huge call centre with pop music blaring through loudspeakers revving people up. Their managing director proudly told me they give away 700 free coffees a day or something to their staff," says Brody who is chief executive of the Consumer Action Law Centre.

"It didn't seem to me the type of culture that would align with education and job seeking. It was all about sales."

http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/vet-an-industry-in-crisis-is-an-investors-worst-bet-20151112-gkxrrb.html#ixzz456mLlkAL

"Private colleges earn millions from phantom students as TAFE teachers axed because of government funding cuts"

"The crackdown on private colleges pocketing billions in government funding for handing out free iPads to students who will never graduate should be reason for the NSW government to press pause on its vocational training reforms.

Instead, there seems to be a disconnect between the realisation in Canberra that vocational training is a "shambles", in the words of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, and the Baird government's latest announcement that it will shift more money from TAFE to the private sector."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/private-colleges-earn-millions-from-phantom-students-as-tafe-teachers-axed-because-of-government-funding-cuts-20151030-gkna72.html

Pfft....

I'll just add, Yabby, that I'm always entertained by your little pre-emptive starters - the "Hahaha" at the beginning...the "Which shows how little you understand..." etc.

After which you go on to wax lyrical and unload a spiel of the most pure right-wing vacuous bilge.

Carry on....

Why is the Australian electorate so narrow minded when it comes to voting.
Most people vote for one party all their lives.
A few will change as they grow older and stop voting labor and vote National or Liberal later in life,and watch the 6pm news to keep them informed about the latest scandal.
Very few Australians take the time to understand the political scene.
Most people will not study the "Form Guide."Check out who they have the opportunity to vote for.
In the last Federal Election.I was surprised that good honest independent,Family First or Palmer United candidates were ignored by the electorate instead LIB/LAB party hacks old and new were tested out and in most case were elected.
The new LIB/LABS make a maiden speech six months later and ask Dorothy Dix questions of their own party for the time they are in Canberra.
This process makes the Australian Parliament look like the very best days of Stalin's Russia.The public know the answer before the new MP asks the question.As well as deals being done in secret
Is Turnbull and Shorten the answer has to be no.
Shorten would be a financial and political train wreck and Turnbull
has shown that he is not upto the standard of Abbott as PM.
This election I will be looking for an honest candidate who has lived in my electorate for a number of years and who will represent our local people.
I will give my second preference to the next weakest so on and so until the very last who I do not representing me.