Yabby,

We have differing opinions on Turnbull....I've heard exactly the things you are saying from various people many times before.

It's been like old times interacting with you here.

Even down to the cute little personal put-downs you lovingly leave behind at the end of each post.

Cheers : )

It is pretty obvious that political strategy is not your strong point either Yabby, if you think he is being cunning

Turnbull is not working to a strategy, he is desperately trying to avoid doing what we all know must be done, cutting spending, or raising the money to keep spending. He is terrified of upsetting any section of the community, when he is likely to desperately need their vote to win an election.

The stupidity is, much he is doing is only winning socialist, Labor & green approval, & it is very unlikely any of those will put a cross against his name, in the cold bright light of the voting booth.

This winning of the dills is costing him a huge number of those who were more likely to put their cross beside his name. Among my friends around here, mostly poor hard working Liberals, as against the rich publicly funded socialists, very few will be voting for anyone in a party led by Turnbull.

Whether he is stupid enough to believe the global warming scam, or is using it to establish a carbon trading scheme to enrich his merchant banking mates is not important. We can all see it's one or the other, which alone makes him unacceptable to us, as a PM, or as a man. He engenders nothing but disgust. It will be very interesting to see the count in our local booth.

And yes I will even vote for Shorten to get rid of Turnbull. The only group below Turnbull & co will be the Greens.

*And yes I will even vote for Shorten to get rid of Turnbull.*

Hasbeen, it is well known that to win Govt, it is all about winning the swinging voter, not those on either extreme, who are unlikely to change their opinion.

Luckily few on the extreme right would be so irrational as to follow your example above, or frankly they would deserve a Labor Govt that screwed every Dollar out of them, for their stupidity and learn the hard way. Some people need pain to learn. Perhaps 6 years of Labor was not enough pain for you.

I'm a swinging voter. I voted informal the first time in my life when the choice was between Mr Rabbit and the Labor rabble.

Now we have a man who isn't a career politician, vs a union leader who seems genuine as a union leader (or politician) could be. He's alright Bill, a bit daggy, wouldn't vote for him probably and I'm more left leaning, but seems a nice enough human.

But the Merchant banker I would give a go. He's smooth and a little bit slimy, but The Liberal party hasn't been liberal for a long time, rather the conservative christian party.

The big end of town has won, it's just the whether you get a Christian fundie, a union hack, or someone who has achieved something outside of politics as the figurehead for big business.

"... or someone who has achieved something outside of politics as the figurehead for big business."

Yep...good old Magnificent Mal - he of the 24-hour thought bubble rotation.

He's fulsomely nobbled the NBN....

"It's probably the most expensive project to roll out an obsolete second-hand technology in the world's history..."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-06/nbn-is-good-enough-to-meet-current-needs-ceo-says/7304684

And now he's hot on the track attempting a similar nobble with the CSIRO...not to mention education in general.

The "innovation" guy!

Haha Poirot, you are clearly unable to differentiate your deep hatred of MT, from what is good business practise! Peeing other peoples money up against the wall and calling it sensible Govt policy, without too much questioning of how it is actually spent, might flow deeply in your leftie veins, but it is in fact foolishness indeed! The devil is of course always in the details.

So what is actually your quibble? That it might take 5 minutes to download a movie instead of 10 seconds? I remind you that many young people don't even have a home phone anymore, they only own a mobile. Why spend 6000$ per home to connect the last node, when many people won't be using it?

The same applies to education and health. There is waste everywhere. In other parts of the world, kids are better educated with far less being spent. Just throwing money at things to make it look as if things are happening, might fool some of you gullible voters, but it is poor business practise and should also be considered poor Govt practise