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The Forum > General Discussion > With Turnbul and Shorten, are we on a road to nowhere?

With Turnbul and Shorten, are we on a road to nowhere?

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And apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so....

"The Coalition has surrendered its lead to Labor for the first time since Malcolm Turnbull became Prime Minister, with the latest Newspoll revealing the Bill Shorten-led opposition has pulled ahead, 51 per cent to 49 per cent, in two-party terms."

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll-malcolm-turnbull-coalition-lose-lead-to-labor/news-story/481794644ea4fc1cb898cb7189fd84b0
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 4 April 2016 10:24:05 PM
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*I think he's a vacuous clod*

You might well think that, but I would note that you are unlikely to be a hugely successful entrepreneur, with the ability to think outside of the square. As far as I am concerned, the more ideas the better, but Turnbull also made it clear that he would be more consultative, which is what he is doing.

Just claiming to have a plan and promising money which is not there, is great to suck in the gullible masses, but is doomed to failure in the real world. If the Premiers want more money, let them be politically accountable for it. Great idea!
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 4 April 2016 11:14:33 PM
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Yes Yabby, let the states take care of their own back yards, rather than just make unaffordable plans then expect the feds to fund them.

The reality is that states such as Tasmania live well beyond their means, while states like WA, after handing much of their wealth over now have to struggle with the plummeting mineral revenues. That's simply unfair.

Just because someone decides to move to say Tassie, should not mean that WA or QLD pick up the tab.

The flip side of this latest endeavour from MT is that should the likes of QLD or WA rebound through another mining boom, they will be fighting tooth and nail to keep their wealth, and rightly so.

As for MT and his innovation plans, first, he mush fix restricting IR laws because as it stands, an innovator cant up skill without fear of retribution.

Of cause if Bill Shorten has his way, none of this will matter because our economy will die.

I say this because businesses and innovators will be restricted from expanding because there will be far fewer buyers for their old buildings thanks to his brain fart NG proposal.

That's why I say we are headed on a road to nowhere.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 7:44:30 AM
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Yabby,

"You might well think that, but I would note that you are unlikely to be a hugely successful entrepreneur, with the ability to think outside of the square...."

Judging by Turnbull's performance, he'd also be unlikely to be a hugely successful entrepreneur - if his habit is to waft around ideas before they're fully formed, or at least have some semblance of integrity.

Btw, I agree with your take that Turnbull is demonstrating an entrepreneurial bent in his political conduct...he's just not doing it very well.

Entrepreneurs become successful only after they prove their projects to be goers.

Being consultative should mean that your are opening the dialogue between players - not attempting to bluff them into a corner while simultaneously shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 10:02:47 AM
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We certainly are on the road to doom with either of these fools. The coalition needs to pay for its stupidity in swapping a reasonable, though not perfect leader, for a total idiot: that way they can reducate themselves back to what is required of them, and get rid of the likes of Pyne and other wets; and Labor can prove once and for all the foolishness of socialism before it is obliterated, hopefully for good.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 10:26:47 AM
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*Btw, I agree with your take that Turnbull is demonstrating an entrepreneurial bent in his political conduct...he's just not doing it very well.*

So Poirot, you don't like how he is doing it. Fair enough, you don't like his style. As you are unable to think like an entrepreneur, more likely his plan is going over your head. How he is doing it, seems fine to me.

*Entrepreneurs become successful only after they prove their projects to be goers.*

Ah, but it is only the beginning of the project. Patience is a virtue!
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 10:44:48 AM
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