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Hillary For President?

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Hasbeen,

Didn't Condo Rice help organize the illegal mass mortality and mass devastation attack on Iraq to remove the non existent weapons of mass destruction?

Why did Condo Rice not speak out about the non-existent evidence of mass destruction weapons?
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 28 March 2016 6:58:15 PM
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JF Aus, everyone actually believed the weapons were there. Saddam Hussein had done everything he could to give that impression as he was in big trouble if Iraq decided to invade, & he thought it would keep the yanks out.

I gather you think the world would be a better place with him still there. I won't argue that too much, as he would have stopped the ISIS very quickly, if as brutally as they are.

Rice did a great job, & would make a better president than most.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 28 March 2016 9:49:14 PM
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Hasbeen,

"JF Aus, everyone actually believed the weapons were there...."

Which of course is complete BS.

The Bush administration cooked the whole thing up, as was later proven by official reports.

"Thanks to a formerly secret memorandum published by the London Sunday Times on May 1, during the run-up to the British elections, we now have a partial answer to that question. The memo, which records the minutes of a meeting of Prime Minister Tony Blair’s senior foreign policy and security officials, shows that even as President Bush told Americans in October 2002 that he “hope[d] the use of force will not become necessary”—that such a decision depended on whether or not the Iraqis complied with his demands to rid themselves of their weapons of mass destruction—the President had in fact already definitively decided, at least three months before, to choose this “last resort” of going “into battle” with Iraq. Whatever the Iraqis chose to do or not do, the President’s decision to go to war had long since been made."

"Seen from today’s perspective this short paragraph is a strikingly clear template for the future, establishing these points:

By mid-July 2002, eight months before the war began, President Bush had decided to invade and occupy Iraq.
Bush had decided to “justify” the war “by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD.”
Already “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.”
Many at the top of the administration did not want to seek approval from the United Nations (going “the UN route”).
Few in Washington seemed much interested in the aftermath of the war."
Seen from today’s perspective this short paragraph is a strikingly clear template for the future, establishing these points"

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2005/06/09/the-secret-way-to-war/

"Rice did a great job, & would make a better president than most."

As one of the coterie of Bush administration war criminals, she did a great job at stuffing up a large section of the middle-east...if that's what you mean.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 28 March 2016 10:32:17 PM
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Hasbeen,

Has you been drinking tonight? LOL

Actually believed you say?
What type of intelligence or evidence is that?

The attack by Bush disrupted the control Saddam Hussein had in the region.
That attack let loose the mob that formed and controls IS.
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 28 March 2016 11:16:07 PM
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Right on, JF Aus,

Hasbeen says:

"I gather you think the world would be a better place with him still there. I won't argue that too much, as he would have stopped the ISIS very quickly, if as brutally as they are."

On the contrary, the invasion of Iraq, and subsequent destabilisation of the region, created the conditions for the rise of ISIS.

ISIS formed out of the disaffection of the Sunnis in a region that had even been a challenge for Saddam to control (even though they shared his sectarian identity) and who after his demise, were completely sidelined - and reacted accordingly.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 7:49:13 AM
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Dear SOG and Hasbeen,

If you were to get hold of Hillary Clinton's book,
"Living History," you would understand the times
and conditions under which she lived and what
her accomplishments were. The two Clinton terms
about which she writes covered not only a transforming
period in her life but also in America's. Her husband
assumed the Presidency determined to reverse the nation's
economic decline, budget deficits and the growing inequities
that undermined opportunities for future generations of
Americans.

Hillary supported his agenda and worked hard to translate
his vision into actions that improved people's lives,
strengthened their sense of community and furthered their
democratic values at home and around the world.

She writes - "Throughout Bill's tenure, we encountered
political opposition, legal challenges and personal
tragedies, and we made our fair share of mistakes.
But when we left office in 2001, America was a stronger,
better and more just nation, ready to tackle the challenges
of a new century."

The choice at the upcoming American election will
most probably be between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
I know who I will be hoping wins.

Perhaps you should Google the web for what the effect Donald
Trump's election would be for Australia.
It's scary stuff.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 9:06:40 AM
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