Y,

Now you are starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist, and not a smart one. If coalition senators voted against the ABCC laws there would be no DD trigger and a lose lose situation.

If the senate passes the legislation MT gets a victory that sets him up for an election in Sept. If the senate doesn't it gives him a DD election on union corruption, and as a majority of voters even in Labor and the greens support it, it is bad news for Shorten who is implicated in union corruption.

Dear SM,

Why would there be no DD if some Liberal senators voted against the trigger? The end result is the same - a second rejection by the senate, which is what MT seeks.

Also, what if some Liberal senators simply didn't show?

Another way, they could technically resign from their party for a few days, becoming independents, then after their vote against the ABCC they could rejoin and be accepted again with open arms.

The way to deal with union corruption is to allow people to sign whatever contracts they like, not involving unions unless they so wish. However, this is a minor matter as the main game in town is that the government hates to see ordinary people represented in the senate, so it wants to kick them out once and for all, whatever be the pretext. Even if it tactically defeats its own ABCC legislation, it will bring it back at some later date.

Lol!...talking of corruption.

"The NSW Liberal party has been slammed by election funding authorities for "concealing" the identities of illegal major donors before the 2011 election that brought it to power, including via the secretive Free Enterprise Foundation.
In an extraordinary finding, the NSW electoral commission has concluded that, based on evidence given to the Independent Commission Against Corruption in 2014, the foundation was used by senior Liberal party officials to "channel and disguise donations by major political donors some of whom were prohibited donors".
The commission says it has relied on evidence given to the ICAC by senior party officials including about the "involvement" of current cabinet secretary Arthur Sinodinos, who was finance director and treasurer of the NSW Liberals at the time.
In a statement released late on Wednesday, commission chairman and former NSW court of appeal president Keith Mason, QC, says the NSW Liberals have repeatedly failed to hand over details of donors to the foundation, which in turn helped bankroll the party's election victory five years ago.

The donations in question total $693,000."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-liberals-concealed-illegal-donors-before-2011-election-win-20160323-gnpsn6.html#ixzz43iwpUq2

And....

"The double-dissolution spill of all 76 Senate seats will hand Nick Xenophon the balance of power, experts say.

Despite Coalition hopes of annihilating the crossbench following the government's Senate electoral law changes, the same pundits are also predicting Jacqui Lambie and Glenn Lazarus have a good chance of being returned.

ABC election analyst Antony Green predicts the South Australian Nick Xenophon Team rather than the Greens will have the balance of power.

http://www.afr.com/news/xenophon-tipped-to-get-balance-of-power-in-senate-20160322-gnojnw#ixzz43ixMc9m

Y,

You are seriously naive. MT already has a trigger for a DD, he doesn't need the senate to reject the ABCC legislation to call a new election. What MT needs is for Labor and the cross benchers to reject the ABCC.

On union corruption, the coalition has a vast archive of dirt on the unions, their corruption, and their ties to Labor, and labor's craven blocking of legislation to stop it that will be used to beat labor.

P,

Even ICAC has recognised that circumventing donation laws while illegal is not corruption.

What is corruption is the 100 odd union officials charged with extortion, assault, intimidation, theft, etc, plus the NSW labor MPs that robbed taxpayers of 10s of $m, the labor councilors of Botany Matraville, Wollongong etc that robbed their constituencies of $ms.

SM,

"Even ICAC has recognised that circumventing donation laws while illegal is not corruption."

In that case, may I offer my sincere apologies....I should have referred to illegal activities - not corruption.

"The good news was he had a potential $20,000 donation for the party. The bad news was that it came from an "illegal" donor as property developers had been banned from donating to NSW political parties since late 2009."

"This week a series of payments made by the FEF to the NSW division of the Liberal party suddenly thrust the organisation back into the national spotlight.
In an explosive finding, the NSW electoral commission found it had graduated from providing privacy for donors to accommodating illegal contributions by "washing" them through the yawning governance gap in state and federal donations laws.
The ruling not only saw the NSW Liberal Party threatening to take the commission to the Supreme Court but also raised fresh questions about the involvement of one of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's most trusted advisors, cabinet secretary Senator Arthur Sinodinos."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/why-arthur-sinodinos-fails-the-pub-test-20160325-gnr0vo.html#ixzz43xhkfaJK

We're losing count of the number of state and federal Liberals being booted for various shonky activities. It's a hoot really, considering how Conservatives strut around holier than thou.

Why, even you, SM, are now making a distinction between illegal activities and corruption as some sort of lame attempt at defence.

Seems to be a party of spivs....

Poirot: "The NSW Liberal party has been slammed by election funding authorities for "concealing" the identities of illegal major donors before the 2011 election that brought it to power, including via the secretive Free Enterprise Foundation.

Which goes a long way to proving that both Major Party's are just as corrupt as one another. That's why it's time to rid Australia of both of them & Elect an fully Independent Senate.

Poirot: ABC election analyst Antony Green predicts the South Australian Nick Xenophon Team rather than the Greens will have the balance of power.

Let's hope so & the "Green Leaf" gets ousted for good.

SM: Even ICAC has recognised that circumventing donation laws while illegal is not corruption.

Yes, Lawyers are good at framing Laws for the Politicians, aren't they? In most countries it's called Corruption, In Australia it's called Donations.

Poirot: We're losing count of the number of state and federal Liberals being booted for various shonky activities.

I guess if we booted all the suspected LNP & Labour Politicians from Office we have an Independent Government, wouldn't we?