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Senate Electoral Bill

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Paul,

I didn't say a word in support of the Liberals or the Laboreals, all that I asked was if it is corruption to lie under Parliamentary Privilege and observed that the Greens are adept at it.

Raw nerve, Paul?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 27 March 2016 11:46:50 PM
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SM,

"I had never realised that boat people and jay walkers were corrupt. With your new definition just about everyone is corrupt.'

Well, that's kinda lame...

I said:

"Apparently he considers the latter is far more acceptable...and fails spectacularly to glean that indulging in illegal activities may be corrupt."

Note the keyword "may"?

You really are a piece of work...imagine if it was the ALP accused of this - we wouldn't hear the end of it.

How many NSW Lib pollies have had to resign...How many dodgy federal Lib pollies have been given the boot?

What a party - wall-to-wall spivs!
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 28 March 2016 1:53:42 AM
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Shadow, any reasonable fair minded person, and Poirot and I are reasonable fair minded people, would agree that any politician who accepted illegal money, such as the Liberal Party's dirty dozen in NSW, and regardless as to what purpose that money was used for, be it used for a sleazy weekend in Whopping with the mistress, while the good wife is at home attending to the poor sick little ones, or be it used for their own selfish re-election, there is no two ways about it, said politician is CORRUPT!

That is the verdict of the reasonable fair minded people.

Is Mise, good to see you have finally come over from the dark side and have distanced yourself from the evil ones within the Liberal Party. If only me old mate Shadow would do the same, and stop deluding himself about CORRUPTION in the Liberal Party, claiming it all happening in the Labor Green non existent Matraville Council!

Shadow, just on Marrickville Council, Fiona Byrne, former Greens Mayor of that council and runner up to Jenny Leong for
pre-selection in the seat of Newtown. Fiona is a very capable Greens member and I would hope to see her in State Parliament sooner rather than later. I am sure you will agree.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 March 2016 5:02:26 AM
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Paul1405: Fiona is a very capable Greens member and I would hope to see her in State Parliament sooner rather than later.

One Greenie in any Government position or Office is one too many. I am sure you will agree.

The Law says the way they receive Donations is not illegal. Then again, that's after it's been Laundered.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 28 March 2016 8:17:28 AM
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Paul,

Ignoring the judgement of the legal body set up to adjudicate corruption in the public sector, and instead making up your own definition is far from fair minded.

Abuse of one public position to enrich oneself or one's party is pure corruption. Examples such as councils accepting cash to rezone properties, rezoning properties which they have an interest, or simply syphoning council funds into their own accounts.

Less direct forms of corruption are accepting "donations" from companies or unions on condition of legislating in their favour. In particular after the corruption scandal in Wollongong. However, the legislation that Labor introduced, targeted donations from business that favours the coalition, yet did nothing about the dirty money coming from the unions.

That both Labor and the Greens take money from corrupt unions sourced often from extortion and other criminal activities and then install legislation that not only favours the unions, but blocks any policing of their criminal activities is the worst form of corruption.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 28 March 2016 9:13:14 AM
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SM: but blocks any policing of their criminal activities is the worst form of corruption.

That's why we have that Bill before the Parliament at the moment. Let hope the Independents support it. It's the Best Legislation the LNP have put forward so far.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 28 March 2016 11:36:49 AM
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