I again reiterate, there are no circumstances whatsoever where a male is justified in physically assaulting a female ! Other than perhaps in circumstances of self-defence, and then only, proportional to the force offered.

I've (unfortunately) attended many incidences of domestic violence over the years, and rarely are there ANY circumstances where a man can legitimately strike a female. I say this despite any other arguments you may care to evoke.

o sung wu,

Couldn't agree more, although I have slapped a woman lightly on the face to halt mounting hysteria.
There is no excuse other than in self defence.

' again reiterate, there are no circumstances whatsoever where a male is justified in physically assaulting a female ! '

See, why only women? Are there any circumstances where men are justified in physically assaulting a man? Are there any circumstances whatsoever where a female is justified in physically assaulting a male?

I'm sure you'd say yes. To both. So really you guys aren't for equality, just white knight chivalry and patriarchy.

I was brought up in a similar era, maybe not as old, and I have never hit a woman, and cant imagine doing so. Much to my detriment on occasion where I could have protected myself a bit better.

The thing is though, from my experience, the same attitudes from the loudly proclaiming 'never hit a woman' grandstanders generally come from un-reconstructed macho sexists, who see women as inferior, even whilst they admire them on a pedestal.

But really, you guys go on with your chest beating nuance-free world view you got going there, and I'll act all chastened to placate you so I don't blow your mind too much.

BTW: Erotic asphyxiation goes both ways, and it can be a valid sensory indulgence.

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Well, yer Honour, we was only stranglin' fer a bita fun, but I had an organism an' she was dead; diden mean t' do it

Chivalry does indeed prevent us from hitting women and long may there be chivalrous men amongst us.
Hitting other men is justified if they hit first or miss with one, comes under the heading of defence.

The public attempt to confront domestic violence would get nowhere if it was sidetracked by all these other issues that are not about immediately, or as fast as the necessary legislation can be drafted, passed and gazetted protecting victims of assault from assault and the fear of assault.

The most ridiculous red herring I've seen is an attempt to sidetrack discussion of domestic violence into one of rearming the likes of Martin Bryant (disguised as relating not to the Martin Bryants but to dear old ladies cowering in their beds!)

Imperator,

Domestic violence is already illegal so a raft of new laws is just a feel good exercise.

What is your solution for the small woman about to be attacked and in fear of her life?
How could she possibly protect herself against an aggressive male?

Ring 000?