AJ,

You haven't been able to discredit my 'claims'. And referring to what I say as ah attacks, is, in itself ah. Not to deft with language, are you?

I see Robert Fisk mentioned. Robert Fisk has devoted his career to equivalence and hatred of his own culture.

Davidf,

'Hitler was baptised as a Roman Catholic' Hitler was this. Hitler was that. What Hitler was NOT is a Christian.

He also said: "The Mohammedan religion too would be more compatible to us than Christianity".

His Arab Muslim allies during WW2 obliged him, as did the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj al-Husseini, with his advice in regard to the final solution of the Jewish problem.

I converted from the rubbish you talk 40 odd years ago. I don't think you have enough time left to see the error of your ways.

On the contrary, ttbn, myself and others have done it a few times.

<<You haven't been able to discredit my 'claims'.>>

For me, there was your claim about the New Testament allegedly overriding the Old Testament (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7032&page=0). Then there was the one about the idea of a homosexual couple raising a child being a “truly horrible prospect” (to be fair, you did most of the discrediting of your own arguments there, I just pointed out the fallacies you were using) (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17786&page=0). Now, in this thread, david f had explained to you why you were wrong (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7084#217130), only for you to later repeat the same naive claim on another thread (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17836#315847).

And in every case, as usual, you simply resorted to ad hominems after your argument flopped.

But thanks for giving me the opportunity to elaborate on what I meant earlier.

<<And referring to what I say as ah attacks, is, in itself ah.>>

Erm, no. I already addressed this here http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17786#314899.

Once again (and as the link I provided you explains), an ad hominem is the use of personal attacks to redirect the focus of a discussion to the person instead of their arguments. If you have already started engaging in ad hominem attacks, then others allowed to point that out without being accused of using ad hominems themselves since you have now made the use of ad hominems relevant to the discussion.

In elemental physics, one cannot see the actual neutrinos or Higgs bosons - they are only detected by observing their by-products such as gamma radiation.

Belief is just a by-product of faith.
It may not even always be present.
Those who have no experience of faith can only see some beliefs that ensue - and mock them accordingly.

Actions that are based on faith are never a sin.
Actions that are merely based on a belief, are often sinful.

Which case is terrorism?
It's sinful, because the perpetrators selfishly desire to reach heaven, believing that such actions would get them there.

Which case was Abraham's?
We may never know because the bible only describes Abraham's actions and is silent about his motive.

Hitler did not slaughter the Jews by himself

Thr German people slaughtered the Jews.

They drove and walked past that walled in area where the Jews were starved to death
To do their shopping etc everyday. Did no one ever ask what's in there.

The German people quietly took possession of all the homes,cars, and bank accounts
Jewellery left behind by millions of Jews.

The work of one dictator I don!t think so.
It was tribal, ethnic territorial cleansing, the same as Isis is doing in
Syria.