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The Paris atrocities are a display of faith

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David f

your twisted dishonest description of Christianity and Hitler is what has contributed to Paris attacks, London being a basket case, Belgium being locked down and threats in every other western nation. With no moral base to draw on it does not surprise me that you along with Islam will lie for the cause (hatred of Christ). Degrees in changing terminology to support ones warped narrative abounds among secularism That is why the term human being is exchanged for foetus by the baby killing industry (you know like Hitler refused top see Jews as human). It seems the older you get the harder your heart becomes preventing you from seeing anything to clearly.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 22 November 2015 2:44:08 PM
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Runner, both you and Ttbn are a disgrace to anything you believe in by personally denigrating AJ and David F re their age.
That is called ageism and bullying, and it is morally wrong in any intelligent person's thinking.

It isn't the same as giving your opinion on the Paris atrocities or the 'faith' displayed by any religious group. Age is not something anyone can control, and you two are bullies.
Runner, no one cares what you think about abortion, so stop being so boring...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 22 November 2015 2:57:45 PM
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SteeleRedux,

I watched the video link you posted to about 3/4 through.

The video started with the Israelie occupation of the border
Around Israel.

This is where the Arab account always begins.
They always fail to mention why Israel occupied that border land around Israel

What caused the Israelis to occupy that land, was called the 6Day war.

3 or 4 Arab states raced over and attacked the Jewish state when Britain
Pulled out of Palestine which they occupied after the 2nd world war, because the
Arabs had plotted with hitler to annihilate the Jews.

Also, I have clear memories going back decades,of Arabs who were allowed to
Move freely around Israel, to work and shop etc. blowing up buses killing school children.
That reporter has lived too long in Lebanon, he needs to go and live in Israel for 20years and hear their side of the story.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 22 November 2015 3:00:09 PM
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SteeleRudux.

More Middle Eastern history not covered by your video link.

It goes back to the Muslim Ottaman Empire in the 18hundreds,
They mass slaughtered any Christians and Europeans in the Middle East.

Eventually pockets of Europeans faught back. And took back some countries.
I suspect the Bosnian war had something to do with the earlier
Slaughter of the European Serbs, who now feel threatened by a build up of Muslims in their country.

Anyway here is some historical text, I obtained from Wikipedia,

In 1833, the Syrian Provinces were ceded to Muhammed Ali of Egypt
In the convention of Kutahya.
In this period , the Sublime Porte's firman (decrees), of 1839 And more decisively of
1856-equalising the status of Muslim and non Muslim subjects -produced a dramatic
Alienation of Muslims from Christians.
The former resented the implied loss of superiority and repeatedly assaulted
And massacred Christian communities, in Aleppo in1850, ,
in Nablus in 1856, in Damascus and Lebanon in 1860.

Notice Damascus included in the massacres, That's Assad territory today,
Maybe he has a reason for not liking thousands of Muslims coming angrily
Into Damascus in a threatening, revolutionary way.

Putin may understand the ethnic history and tribal hostilities much better
Than the West,.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 22 November 2015 3:32:06 PM
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Dear CHERFUL,

I agree that knowledge of the history of the region is important in exploring the shift in Muslim attitudes to the West, especially that of the last 50 years.

Therefore forgive me if I take a small moment to correct you. You claimed the following;

“The video started with the Israelie occupation of the border Around Israel. This is where the Arab account always begins. They always fail to mention why Israel occupied that border land around Israel. What caused the Israelis to occupy that land, was called the 6Day war.”

The video starts in Lebanon, Beirut to be precise and moves to the area of Lebanon occupied by Israel. This was not the result of the 6 Day War as you assert which occurred in the 60s but as a result of the invasion of Southern Lebanon by Israel in 1982. it was during this time Israel watched and did nothing as hundreds of armed rightwing Christians entered the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps and raped and slaughtered up to 3,000 unarmed Muslims, mainly women and children.

A BBC reporter said “People who committed the acts of murder that I saw that day were wearing crucifixions and were calling themselves Christians.” It was deemed an act of genocide by the UN.

Other massacres of Muslims by Christians occurred during this time including Tel al-Zaatar and Karantina.

The video is one of a series of three. I really do recommend watching them all.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 22 November 2015 5:08:14 PM
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Dear ttbn,

I enjoyed davidf cuffing you around the ears so much I've decided I like having you around. It truly was a delight. You really can't muster anything of substance can you.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 22 November 2015 5:08:48 PM
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