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Guns - Are Australians rearming themselves by stealth ?

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o sung wu,

You keep reviving old memories, Ross Nixon, in my book, was a top bloke.
Up there also were Barney Ross and Col Leatherbarrow.

On the practical firearms side it would have been hard to beat Jack Christie, Police Armourer or his side kick Karl (forgotten his name) who was a craftsman of the highest order.
I once had the pleasure of using a prewar Walther "Olympia" .22 Target Pistol (owned by the NSW Police Dept) that Karl had tuned up. It had the crispest trigger imaginable.

Agree with you on the hazards and consequences of waving replicas around.
However I think that it was a mistake to ban replica pistols, crims were using them and the Govt. banned their sale and possession, so the crooks went back to using real pistols.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 20 November 2015 7:50:13 PM
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Beach, you spend all your time on here attacking the Greens, progressives, feminists, Stalinist, trotskyists, any leftyists you can think of including former PM's Rudd and Gillard, who were hardly left at all. You even ran a long campaign attacking the Fabian Society. Now its the Labor government in Queensland you so despise, always trying to erroneously associate them and the Greens with bikie gangs, and you have the gall to claim I am "notorious as OLO's great spinner of yarns and fabricator. There wouldn't be a post of yours where you weren't fabricating some obvious BS about someone." come come my dear friend is the pot calling the kettle black.

From your less than advantageous point somewhere in the back blocks of Queensland your pontificate on a police operation in Marrickville NSW. Calling the machine-gun discovered a replica, trying to refute what the police are saying, to quote the ABC news " Police said they discovered a Thompson branded fully-automatic submachine gun, a clip and almost 200 rounds of ammunition in Avidov's bag." Yet despite the police who are there, you offer a different interpretation, one that minimises the whole affair.

To answer your question "Where is the evidence it is fully operable and not a replica?" Experienced police officers on the ground, on the spot. Where is your evidence to the contrary?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 November 2015 6:07:53 AM
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Paul,

It seems strange to many that an apparently minor crook would be in possession of a gun that could be worth over 50,000 of our dollars.
The appearance of the gun, it's simply to new.
The news keeps mentioning a clip; where is it?
One news story mentions shotgun rounds but not Thompson ammo another doesn't mention shotgun but says 200 rounds, who's right?

If the media can get so many simple things wrong in such a short story how do you know that they are quoting the police correctly?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 November 2015 8:53:16 AM
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Paul1405,

Weren't you one of the prolific posters who was always going on about politics, a real expert, but you denied that any Labor politician was a Fabian, or that Fabianism even existed.

Yet for years before and after Whitlam spoke about his conversion to Fabianism after becoming PM, senior left politicians and especially Labor have publicly avowed their Fabianism aka 'Progressives' aka International Socialism. You mentioned Rudd and Gillard, inferring they were not Fabians yet both made such declarations, were forever going on about 'progressivism' and spoke regularly at Fabian knees-ups.

On numerous occasions I gave you links to videos publicly available on YouTube, of for example, Julia Gillard declaring her Fabianism.

Where politicians espouse a political creed, in this case Fabianism aka 'Progressivism'(sic, it is the opposite, regressivism), aka International Socialism, it would be foolish not to take them seriously.

You are in denial as usual.

tbc..
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 21 November 2015 10:48:50 AM
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continued..

Replica Thompson gun
The only thing 'fully automatic' about that replica is the BS of headline-hunting Greens.
You have already been told that the regulations foolishly equate what the police can deem as 'guns' - 'realistic-looking' toys, inoperable fakes (that 'Thomspon' replica), 'Airsoft', water pistols and even pistols fashioned out of soap as real working firearms.

Heaven help a child who removes that now compulsory red painted end on a toy, some troublemaking, 'offended' leftist could beat it as a 'gun threat' and have the men in black arrive to confront the kid with real, loaded and cocked semi-automatic weapons.

There are plenty of photos of a particular Deputy Commissioner of Police from another State who regularly hits the national and international news out of his habit of standing in front of Airsoft toys and clapped-out 'Daisy' air rifles declaring them to be dangerous 'Assault', 'high-powered' and 'sniper' rifles.

To conclude, police can take advantage of sloppy, over-the-top regulations to describe practically anything as a firearm, even implying as in the subject case that a replica could be 'automatic'. It is 'automatic' what that is the question. LOL

However, copy or real it still proves that the Howard-inspired 'gun control' doesn't control or even mildly deter law-breakers. Gun control is aimed at bans and confiscations from ordinary reputable, licensed citizens. It only inconveniences the law abiders. Which is what totalitarian leftists such as yourself are about. The lunar Greens are always going on about the rights of criminals and disarming Australia. Why? -Along with that Soros organisation mentioned earlier, which you of course ignored, right?
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 21 November 2015 10:53:01 AM
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G'day there IS MISE...

Those who worked in ballistics and the armoury did stealing work, both in the forensic arena, and keeping the troops personal issue F/A serviceable and in sound working order. Not unlike what you did IS MISE, when you worked with military small arms ? Anyway the days when most of us were issued and carried the mod 10/3, there were all manner of blokes in the job who fancied themselves as 'amateur F/A expert' who would (against regulations) pull the the side plate off, in an endeavour to tune their F/A and their mates F/A as well !

Their main object for modification was to remove a coil or two from the 17 coil rebound spring, ostensible to lighten the trigger pull a little. Alternatively they'd file a bit off the cams, both the hammer seat and/or the rebound seat, again to make the index of the trigger pull 'smoother' ? Fortunately they could do very little to the mod 10's main spring, but some members were issued with mod 36's which has a coil mainspring ! So these 'experts' would remove a couple of coils from there as well !! Some wondered why they experienced a misfire occasionally ? Thank God for the police armourers otherwise ??

One of the best 'type' reference libraries I've seen, was the AFP's in Canberra. Headed up by Det Sgt Ian (Herbie) PRIOR retd., they had over two thousand different 'shorts', rifles and shotguns. Naturally being the Feds, everything Customs confiscated, ultimately ended up in the custody of the AFP, as well as other weapons seized elsewhere. Consequently the blokes who worked there, enjoyed a real smorgasbord of F/A's they may've wished to 'examine, assess and evaluate', not dissimilar to your Walther Olympia .22 target, you shot, courtesy of the NSW Wallopers awhile back.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 21 November 2015 1:27:05 PM
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