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Why do we have to keep snivelling to the US

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Paul,

I wonder why you continuously post crap without checking your facts. The topic extends far more than the title. The topic was specifically about the US's deliberate violation of the Chinese territorial claims.

What fascinates me is the Greens' obsequious pandering politically to China in the fact of China's rank imperialism yet the Greens' rank hypocrisy in opposing the FTA.

The US has by far the strongest military, and US hegemony has given the world a largely peaceful 7 decades of peace and unprecedented growth. The rules it tries to enforce are not the ones it makes up. E.g. the International Maritime agreement has been signed by every major sea faring nation including China, which is the exactly what China is violating with its imperial claims.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 6 November 2015 10:44:52 AM
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Shadow, Yours and other sycophants unquestioned admiration of all things American is ridiculous in the extreme. Starting with Menzies and extending to all other Liberal regimes in Australia, and may I add most Labor administrations as well, with the notable acceptation of the Whitlam government.

Led into one war after another, from Korea to Syria, Australia has to its eternal shame followed blindly the US demands of participation. Now you want to make a big deal about China, whilst continually excusing American aggression world wide.

The absurd hypocrisy of you saying "Greens' obsequious pandering politically to China in the fact of China's rank imperialism" Nothing could be further from the truth. Not one Australian has died as a consequence of Chinese demands (of which there have been none) for Australia's participation in imperialists wars, unlike the United States which led us into Korea and then Vietnam where hundreds of Australians died in the name of US aggression. Please post your justification for the Australian deaths in those wars, it will make interesting reading.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 November 2015 7:12:23 AM
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Paul,

In this thread your rabid rejection of everything American and obsequious fawning to China is clouding your judgement. That in this instance, China is attempting illegally to seize by force the territorial rights of smaller nations, and the US is thwarting the bully, must really do your head in.

The Korean war is a prime example of where China and Russia backed North Korea to attack South Korea, and where the democratic world stopped them.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 7 November 2015 9:55:47 AM
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So, that is your take on the Korean War, what about the Vietnam War? Will your explanation be just as flaky.
No doubt you were one of the useful idiots of the world who swallowed George W Bush's BS he and his flunkies Powell, Rice, Rumsfield etc feed you about Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction.
The Americans can always rely on a hard right conservative Aussie like yourself to fall for the BS hook, line and sinker!

Paul said; "Not that I am out to defend the actions of the Chinese, I don't."

Please explain why the US needs to spend $640US billion, annually, more than the next 8 nations combined, on militarism. You have no explanation other than to feed its aggressive military-industrial complex!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 November 2015 4:36:37 PM
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Paul,

Given that you still haven't substantiated your claim of war crimes in the Falklands war, perhaps you can do so and give us your take on the Korean war? I wait in breathless anticipation.

Secondly, I never supported the war on Iraq nor believed that there were WMDs of sufficient quantity of quality to warrant an invasion. However, given the barbarity of Saddam to his people and the millions killed in the Iran Iraq war, I had little sympathy for Saddam and his cronies.

As for the US military strength, for any one familiar with history would remember the US's policy of isolation which was shattered at Pearl Harbour, followed by WW2, the Korean war, the cold war, etc which were all direct threats.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 7 November 2015 5:28:46 PM
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No mention of the Vietnam War, a rather inconvenience event, giving the lie to American imperialism. Pity John Howard and the other useful idiots of the Liberal Party didn't have your foresight at the time, or given the stupidity of those that fell for the Bush BS hook, line and sinker are you simply revising your personal history, we'll never know.

What about an explanation why the US spends $640US billion on militarism annual, more than the next 8 combined. Any thoughts on that?
I didn't personally experience the Korean War of 60 years ago. I do know that the crazy Yank General Macarthur wanted to nuk innocent people in North Korea and kill millions. Then he wanted to be president of the United States, how fitting.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 November 2015 6:08:31 PM
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