Roscop,

"...If Rosie Batty is not talking about the restrictions placed on Greg Anderson's access to his son, what on earth is she talking about?"

Restrictions?

On Greg Anderson?

The Greg Anderson who had restrictions placed on him because he was considered a danger?

The Greg Anderson who ultimately proved the need for restriction by the actions of brutally clubbing and knifing his son to death?

That Greg Anderson?

(I haven't got time to address the rest of your nonsense - but I'll be back when I can)

Okay, perhaps we can all agree that domestic violence is multi-faceted, with multiple consequences, up to murder-suicide. It is very difficult to predict and prevent, but somehow that must be done.

If we need a holistic approach, and presumably a preventative approach, then how do we as a society go about implementing that ?

Clearly, spouses get on each others' nerves sometimes, sometimes often. Perhaps everybody involved needs somewhere, a neutral social area perhaps, to cool off, a supportive and non-judgemental group where they can talk out their frustrations, get things off their chest and go back home determined to give their life-partners more space and understanding.

I don't know that separate men's and women's groups would be needed. I don't know how they could be set up as 'groups' rather than a handful of individuals. But perhaps if both wives and husbands under stress could have someone to talk out their issues with, it might be a step forward.

At least, (I can't believe I'm writing this, but here goes) trained social workers could identify habitual tormenters, spouses who get a kick out of humiliating and subordinating their partner, spouses who need other treatment or at least watching, and perhaps leaving.

Just trying to get above the fray :)

Joe

Loudmouth, how does all this marriage counselling protect victims of actual assault when the basher decides to lash out after he's come home with a skinful? How does it prevent the next assault when the booze fuelled arrogance takes over again? And the next? How does it end the constant fear of violence? How does this marriage counselling aspproach (which hasn't ended DV yet) prevent the talk sessions degenerating rapidly into he-said she-said contests?

Maybe the technology shown at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-05/offender-anklet-monitoring-system-reviewed-for-tasmania/6915704 may have a role, but if any real headway agaiinst DV is to be achieved that way then there must be a requirement that if any basher bypasses the technology in some way then it's "Go to gaol, go directly to gaol, do not pass GO, do not collect $200" And stay there. For many years.

Scumbags stand over their victims with fists and other assault weapons, and any "solution" focused on massaging their angst is back to business-as-usual and no progress against those who commit DV culminating in dozens of homicides.

EmperorJulian:

If it is as horrific as you make out then why do women enter into domestic relationships in the first place? Why do those in relationships now remain in them? Why don't they get out while they can?

Domestic violence can be stopped by simply ending the relationship before anything happens. This is the most logical response to the picture you portray. Why do women ignore all the evidence that you and others lay before them and persist in these relationships? Why do they pander to all those reality shows which romanticise domestic relationships? Why do they choose to ignore the overwhelming evidence of men's violence and relate to the confection of TV, films and novels?

There is something seriously wrong with these women that no amount of re-engineering of men can fix. It is a complete lack of self-respect that propels them into such highly dangerous situations.

phanto,

"There is something seriously wrong with these women that no amount of re-engineering of men can fix..."

It just keeps getting more entertaining.

Which is it, boys?

My mum stuck with dad for the family and because in the sixties there was nowhere to go and no govt support to get out...until she couldn't stand it any more - and our family was torn in two.

If there are children to consider, it's not as easy as it appears to just pick up digs and vamoose.

The likes of Rosie batty got out - and seeing that there was a child involved, her husband got restricted visiting rights.

Then he murdered their son.

Like Emperor Julian said - it doesn't matter which line you guys take, it's always the woman's fault if a man commits domestic violence.

Roscop has spent post after post blaming the person who didn't bludgeon and knife her son to death, who escaped from an aggressive man and attempted to protect their son.

phanto appears to believe that the women who don't do what Rosie Batty did and "get out" are the ones to blame...a la " Why don't they get out while they can?"

Which is it fellas?

(Leaving out "lunacy" and "the system" this time around - but I'm sure you'll meander back there again soon)

Poirot:

There is no need to get so defensive.

I am not talking about the victims. I am talking about those who have not yet become victims. Why do they hang around when the chances of them becoming victims is so high? Why do they enter relationships in the first place when it is so dangerous? I cannot be accused of blaming the victim when there is no victim.