Hasbeen,

I really love your direct way of dealing with whacky people.

Franc

otb, that is a very good new discussion you have launched here. And the comments are also excellent.

From a male DV victim's point of view there can also be psychological abuse of children involved.
Children are taken away from their father including by order of a Court that has not had time nor 'resources' to hear the male parent's case and evidence.
Children are taken or stolen from their father.
Children can lose their father forever, physically and mentally.

There are sometimes female hormone issues involved, so sympathy for the women and there should be sympathy for the impacted male.
Women know that PMT can cause friction and instigate argument.

Poverty associated with mismanagement of the economy can cause hunger and near empty plates or no meal at all.
Hunger causes irritation as we know.

What is really off is that children can be taken away from the father forever, because even if they come back years later they are no longer children. They have become adult.

No Court has any right to ignore the genuine male victims of DV.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk will be congratulated by the many affected fathers and children, for honesty about all the DV issues.

Yes, we have to feel dreadfully sorry about the two men killed each week by their violent partners.

Get a grip.

Joe

Loudmouth, if you only want to consider death then best you get a grip on the number of men and women that are driven to commit suicide instead of physically hurting their partner.

Look at the whole situation as this thread suggests, instead of just looking at the horrific death and injury of females.

Of course if you just want to pander to females while ignoring males then that is your choice.

I am one of the first to stand up in defense of women but I also have the courage to speak up for innocent males.

JF,

Do you have any figures for male suicides, and for female suicides, suicides as consequential to domestic violence ? Are you suggesting that there might be as many men, or even that there are more men, suiciding than women ?

And the last time I looked, suicide actually was a form o 'death'.

So how many women all up, and how many men all up, die, one way or another, from domestic violence ? Are you suggesting that the total numbers would be anything alike ?

Figures, please, not just fellow jocks crying into their beers. Otherwise you really are just blowing it out your arse.

Joe

Murder numbers are low in Australia and it follows that the number of deaths attributed to DV is also low. Of course any death is tragic and one too many, but there needs to be some perspective.

Miranda Devine,
<Campaigns such as Destroy the Joint’s Counting Women project insist on making domestic violence a gender issue. It claims 66 women are victims this year, with the implication these are all “intimate partner” homicides, perpetrated by males.

In fact, only about half of the homicides cited could be classified as having a male partner or ex-partner identified as the killer.

Some of the 66 victims were killed by women, by sisters, daughters, a female neighbour or, in one case, a female ex-lover of the victim’s husband, as well as by brothers, fathers, and sons, strangers, acquaintances and persons unknown.

Domestic violence is a serious enough without exaggerating.

The activists cherrypick facts to support their dogma, rather than using statistics to better target scarce resources to help the most vulnerable victims, and to address the root causes of domestic violence.>
http://tinyurl.com/qjzalet

That is rather the point isn't it? That the resources available to combat DV and assist the victims should be directed where needed and for best effect?

Isn't it better to break the chain of events that lead to violence?